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Old 12-19-2012, 06:40 AM   #76
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The GT looks to me like a replacement for the R1150RS. Among the BMW faithful there was a great deal of nashing of teeth when that bike went away. The R1200ST was way to ugly to be considered a replacement . It was an important segment of the market fro BMW back in the day. In fact, I believe that the R1100RS was the first R1100 model released in the US.
Actually, the R1100GS was the first Oilhead. You're right about the R1150RS though...a great bike, and BMW totally disappointed us with the R1200ST. I went over to Aprilia and don't look back fondly.

I hope the new GT isn't too little Sport for $16k and I will give it a look...aprilia parts are getting scarce!
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:10 AM   #77
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I see everyone asking for a mid-displacement bike with enough power and confort for 2-up travelling that isn't a porky pork.

When it arrives, they say it hasn't good suspension... how many of you ride THAT hard the bike that you actually feel you need better suspensions? Or is it the price point?

For me, it is getting closer and closer to my dream bike! Top eletronics, small weight, full fairing, 2-up confort, low maintenence, very low consumption (My motorbike is my daily commuter) and more than nough horsepower to push me, my girlfriend and our stuff for a 2weeks trip without even sweating!

Heck, I have a versys 650 with 64bhp and I find it more than enough to roll at 140km/h (90mph?) spending 4.5l/100km (50mpg?) all day long
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And the F800 can do even better with fuel.

I once looked at a F800S at a dealership while I owned the Ninja 650R,
and asked around some.. then read a long term report in a german
magazine about both.. and the running costs were double for the F800S.

A Bandit 1250S (GSX1250FA) was actually between the two.

So I forgot about it..





Looking at it now, it was 07/2007.. just 2,5 months after I got my 650R
(and put like 5k miles on it in the meantime). Was actually considering
trading up after only 2,5 months.. and I was happy with the 650R.. then.


Excuse the semi-hijack.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:05 PM   #78
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I like it...

....if I didn't own my V-Strom 650, this bike would be in the garage in its place.

I like the idea of a lighter GT bike.

While I really admire the C14, FJR1300, Trophy, et. al., they are just too damn big for my tastes. The idea of an 800cc machine with great fuel economy, zero maintenance belt or shaft drive, and light weight enough that I can actually pick it up, sounds fantastic.

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Old 12-19-2012, 06:37 PM   #79
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Actually, the R1100GS was the first Oilhead.
R1100RS released May of 1993.

R1100GS released April of 1994.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:16 AM   #80
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When it arrives, they say it hasn't good suspension... how many of you ride THAT hard the bike that you actually feel you need better suspensions? Or is it the price point?
There is a line a motoring journalist mate of mine quotes & it goes something like "extra spend on power you appreciate once in a while, extra spend on suspension you appreciate every day." Translated it means you don't need to ride "hard" to feel the difference, better suspension is just better at all speeds.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:04 AM   #81
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R1100RS released May of 1993.

R1100GS released April of 1994.
My '94 R1100RS was number 80 in the US with a Mfg date of 3/93. John, I think the May '93 release date was worldwide, but not USA. I remember the GS was available in the US before the RS...but who really cares! You had a Beta RS as well, didn't you?
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:44 AM   #82
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My '94 R1100RS was number 80 in the US with a Mfg date of 3/93. John, I think the May '93 release date was worldwide, but not USA. I remember the GS was available in the US before the RS...but who really cares! You had a Beta RS as well, didn't you?
I did, serial number 1323.....one of best bikes I've ever owned. Hardly a single issue with it.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:41 PM   #83
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My '94 R1100RS was number 80 in the US with a Mfg date of 3/93. John, I think the May '93 release date was worldwide, but not USA. I remember the GS was available in the US before the RS...but who really cares! You had a Beta RS as well, didn't you?
How can a bike built in March 1993 be a '94 R1100RS? The last new bike I bought was an old stock clearance bargain sold new two years after it was built but that doesn't make it two years younger! By that logic I can celebrate my 50th all over again this year FWIW I was a photojourno on the Aus launch of the R1100RS & it was launched as a stand alone model. The Germans spun the line that the GS series would stay as two valve carb equipped bikes 'cos the likely owners of on/off road bikes shunned power, weight & complexity in favour of a bike that can be fixed with fence wire in the outback. Funny in hindsight.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:14 PM   #84
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How can a bike built in March 1993 be a '94 R1100RS? The last new bike I bought was an old stock clearance bargain sold new two years after it was built but that doesn't make it two years younger! By that logic I can celebrate my 50th all over again this year FWIW I was a photojourno on the Aus launch of the R1100RS & it was launched as a stand alone model. The Germans spun the line that the GS series would stay as two valve carb equipped bikes 'cos the likely owners of on/off road bikes shunned power, weight & complexity in favour of a bike that can be fixed with fence wire in the outback. Funny in hindsight.
I had a '87 BMW K100LT build date 3/86. I have a '91 Honda ST1100 build date 3/90
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:45 PM   #85
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BMW needs to strike back at Triumph with half the K1600 motor.. an inline triple.

I agree!
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:13 PM   #86
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:24 PM   #87
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I had a '87 BMW K100LT build date 3/86. I have a '91 Honda ST1100 build date 3/90
Well to my eye it looks like you have a '86 K100LT & a '90 ST1100. Why call them a year younger than what they are?
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:12 PM   #88
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Well to my eye it looks like you have a '86 K100LT & a '90 ST1100. Why call them a year younger than what they are?
That's why it's called a "model year", not a "build year". Same concept as "fiscal year" - you start one whenever the heck you want ...
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:21 PM   #89
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I've got a F800ST. The changes between the St and the "GT" are so minuscule I'm not even sure why they even changed the name. A tiny stretch on the swingarm, lower fairing piece, and the system cases (which I'd like on my bike over the sport cases), and all of a sudden they have a new "model".
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:03 PM   #90
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Read that its $13,190.00 for the GT with the Comfort and Safety Packages; personally looking forward to reading up on Real World test rides/reports and taking one of these of an extended demo ride.

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