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Old 12-27-2012, 08:35 PM   #46
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The event being "Friday".

Hey, didn't see you there at all.
Perhaps if you had worn your boots...
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:44 PM   #47
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I have been pulled over twice for "filtering" in rush hour traffic around New Orleans and let off with a warning each time. Once was by a State Trooper who seemed much more irritated that I had ridden right by him while doing it rather than pulling back into the lane before I got to him, and the other time was by a guy in an unmarked car who I am still not 100% sure was an actual cop. As an aside, both times I was yelled obscenities at by passers by whom I passed prior to being pulled over - which I mention only to illustrate the point about the general public being hostile to such an activity.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:08 PM   #48
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In CO just north of Denver, there's usually a frontage road next to the interstate. Don't let a cop see you going over the grass strip between em. While I haven't been popped, I've seen the results of trying.

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This is one thing we have plenty of here in Texas. I don't see a problem with people using them, but for some reason the local authorities around here have an obsession against people cutting across the ditch and getting on the frontage road.

I don't do it because I have other options on a bike, but when traffic comes to a halt on the highways around DFW most pickups will head for the nearest frontage road. They are constantly pulling people over for it and writing them up, meanwhile I can lanesplit away also illegal here, and I don't have to worry, because they are too busy worried about Bubba's pickup crossing the ditch.

They put up wooden poles with cables stretched between them. The next day somebody cut the cables. They put more poles closer together where you couldn't fit a truck between them. The next day somebody pushed the poles out of the ground, and wahlah a new path. Then they have a crackdown with police pulling them over, and yet as they write them up more trucks drive by them. Now they put berms up, I am waiting for a D10 dozer to clear a new path

I have an idea, the well worn ruts that are used most often why don't they scrape them smooth and lay some asphalt down that way the cars can use them too. Relieve some of the congestion off the main roads and let traffic equalize and everybody will get home sooner.

Bear in mind we don't have fancy landscaping like them California or Florida Fwy's. Nothing but weeds and gravel in our ditches and dead weeds at that. With our weather even the weeds can't survive!
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:56 PM   #49
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Toronto can be a problem on the 401 during the morning and evening rush hours. Chicago is horrendous no matter what time it is. Here in the Detroit area, it's not bad.

The 401 is 16 lanes of madness all right, except late at night.

I love it for good free-for-all riding, but I grew up playing on it, and would counsel you

to avoid it like the plague.

Try using the 407 north of the city; fast, civilized, relatively cop-free,

all of which almost makes it worth the price of admission.

It's the worlds most expensive toll highway, but it's an e-toll,

so if your plates are from outside NA, you're fine.

BTW, I love riding t h r o u g h Detroit, good traffic, but I'm scared to stop in places!


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Legal Consequences of Lane Splitting/Filtering? *ONTARIARIO*

I get away w/ murder here on the GTA highways, including some *ahem* high-speed lane splitting.

I AM prudent about it; I keep a keen eye out for cops.

You'll be golden w/ Aussie plates.

Remembe, in Ontariario: 50kmph over the limit can get your bike impounded,

a criminal charge, and a $10,000 fine.

At 60kmph over the limit, the cops aren't *supposed* to chase you.


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I can only relate what happened when I got pulled, on my Austrian plated bike with a UK driving licence, for speeding. I was put in the patrol car, driven to an ATM and made to pay an "on the spot fine".

I talked my way outta 14 tickets in a row back in '97, and a couple while in the US over the years.

I showed a Maine State Trooper my kilometre odometer; he seemed confused, and allowed that

"My English seemed pretty good" and let me off w/ me a warning...

However, friends in cars have had to pay on the spot in the US, even using VISA machines the cops had!!!

I think it's because there's no other way to ensure payment from foreign nationals.






Personally, I don't think the US should let them foreign-curs in at all.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:22 AM   #50
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However, friends in cars have had to pay on the spot in the US, even using VISA machines the cops had!!!

I think it's because there's no other way to ensure payment from foreign nationals.


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Until this thread I have never heard of "on the spot" fines, not legal ones anyhow. Visa machines in a cop car, now that is just BS!

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Old 12-28-2012, 07:41 AM   #51
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Until this thread I have never heard of "on the spot" fines, not legal ones anyhow. Visa machines in a cop car, now that is just BS!

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Ohio does it sometimes, depends on the county. I paid with plastic once, another time I had to follow the cop over to the courthouse and pay in cash.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:42 AM   #52
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wow, thanks! I just looked it up, and all it says is in a "safe and prudent manner". I guess I can worry a bit less when I do it at higher speeds!

Also, sorry for the bum info.

No worries. I've been hauling ass along and looked in my mirrors to see a CHP motor, get the hell out of the way, then try to keep up...I can't do it.


Safe and prudent in the new year,

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Old 12-28-2012, 10:29 AM   #53
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Until this thread I have never heard of "on the spot" fines, not legal ones anyhow. Visa machines in a cop car, now that is just BS!

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Jim, I'm guessing you're not a foreign national.

Can't deport you either, can they?


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Ohio does it sometimes, depends on the county. I paid with plastic once, another time I had to follow the cop over to the courthouse and pay in cash.


Hmmm. I really did think them"on-the-spot" fines were just for non-Americans...

ttpete, are you foreign, or just real shifty looking?
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:02 AM   #54
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Got pulled in Ohio in '75 on I 70, and had to follow the trooper somrthing like 10 miles to the courthouse to pay the fine. No in car Visa machines back then!
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:22 PM   #55
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if you're coming to the u.s. To see the country on a motorcycle,and you feel that traffic is so bad you will need to split/filter you are going to the wrong spots. If you are in heavy traffic at a tourist spot like yellowstone and filter, it's not helping traffic flow, it's just cutting in line.
Enjoy the trip!
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:27 PM   #56
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I differentiate between lane splitting and filtering. The former is high speed and often dangerous, while filtering is low speed between cagers that are moving very slowly or stopped. Filtering is something I do 98% of the time; lane splitting very rarely. Query whether the traffic enforcers draw any distinction between the two?
Filtering = filtering to the front of a stopped line of vehicles.

Splitting = lane-sharing with other vehicles at speeds below 40mph.

As mentioned, you'll get away with it in Kalifornia, and that's about it.

Also, as mentioned, your biggest issue elsewhere will be other motorists, not police, if you insist on filtering/lane-sharing.

In reality, except in the densest urban areas, you won't have a need for either. Traffic is just not that heavy in most of The USA.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:07 PM   #57
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Ohio does it sometimes, depends on the county. I paid with plastic once, another time I had to follow the cop over to the courthouse and pay in cash.
I would flat out refuse to pay. That it total bullshit!

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Old 12-28-2012, 05:25 PM   #58
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I would flat out refuse to pay. That it total bullshit!

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Ohio State Trooper on the side of the road - Follow me to the station, pay your fine or see the judge in 30 minutes. I was in Ohio and got snagged just south of Dayton. It's true! They ferried 10 of us over with a trooper on each end of the convoy.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:30 PM   #59
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Ohio State Trooper on the side of the road - Follow me to the station, pay your fine or see the judge in 30 minutes. I was in Ohio and got snagged just south of Dayton. It's true! They ferried 10 of us over with a trooper on each end of the convoy.
I would see the judge, spend time in jail if necessary. That kind of good ole boy theivery is totally not acceptable!

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:01 PM   #60
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To the best of my knowledge, lanesplitting or if you prefer filtering, is not legal in all 50 states.
In California, lanesplitting is not addressed in the traffic code and is considered by many "not illegal"
While it may be not legal and not illegal, it is still a stupid practice.
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