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Old 12-17-2012, 05:45 PM   #676
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crossed the 3 forks of the yuba

Unless the "globe" warms up out of normal this winter, I think this will be the last of the high country dualsport runs for me this season.
The cold Yuba run from Nov 25th.
I had not posted it in the Sac Rider's thread, so I feel remiss that you've all been deprived of relishing our outing. But no more...
And the ride report below...
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7:18-time spent away from the truck
4:32-time spent with a motor running
273 degrees-hotest engine got-(ran at 193 durning the hightailing it back)
6,010-max rev's per minute
69.5-maximum MPH
121.5 miles-finger numbing, butt burning, bike manuvering, tire ghooshing fun...

Hey all...
I'm sure everyone is wondering how yesterday's ride went...
It was GREAT! I started out before the sun was up,
(sky beginning to change to blue), then got back after it was dark,
(loading bike on trailer in the dark)

You might think that's a long day, but truth is the sun shines only for a short time...
I spent the whole day absorbing it's rays as much as possable.

After final discussion about who, where and when, the plan was to drive to wavey's and transfer my bike from the trailer to his pick-up bed.
Did that, and headed out with a quick on/off for gas at the Valero.

Cruised up to G/V via 80/174 and entered the safeway parking lot where we were to meet mysticrick. Our 4th rider wasn't gonna make it so, a crew of 3 started gearing up for the fun ride ahead.

We avoided the highway by taking backroads through N/C and onto coyote street. Met up with N Bloomfeild road and went down to Edwards. No stopping there as it's dam cold,
(frost on the bridge) and the yuba was in the shade.
But at the top of the mountain we refreshed at a sunny spot.

Continuing on to the historic town of N Bloomfeild we paused again in order to take advantage of the scenic surroundings for a photo opp.

Again refreshed we proceeded north and up hill till we hit cruzon grade and the saddle.
There, it was back onto dirt again and down into the shady zones.
Again I followed my intuition which always seems to lead me into someones drive way for what is most likely a pot farm.
Never seen so many broken down cars and trash.
Later I heard tale there was fellow hollering at us as we passed right through, not stopping.
Good thing I've done this before, as I knew exactly how to get us right out of there.
Out on the side of the ridge heading east we proceeded to take a particular route more than once.
I mean, we came to the same place we had already been!
But me knowing that, we went round again anyway cause it was a blast.

Had another stop in the middle of no-where and refreshed.
It's warming up a bit now and were heading for german bar.
This is the reverse direction than what mysticrick likes, but it's my "normal"
from all the years spent up at the shed.
The road down to german bar is a bit tattered and rocky. It's steep yes.
Dumps ya out right by the bridge over the middle fork of the yuba river.
I had told myself that if it was sunny down there,
then this would be the place for an extended stop.
It was...we did...

mysticrick has a running thing going to visit the owners of the allegany bar/store
and this was to be our next destination.
Since the old days at the shed, I had only visited allegany rarely due to my "ohv only" status.
Thus I defered to mysticrick's guidance througth the maze of top-of-the-hill roads.
We arrived there and refreshed up a bit.
The wood stove was cooking away inside and things were cozy for sure!

Time to look at the map cause I had very lofty plans for the day
which included trying a never before riden trail (by me) called the fiddle creek trail.
The map helped us get out of town and I counted how many roads before the next turn.
Yet, still relying on mysticricks recollection of the area,
we went down a wrong road for a mile or so thinking it was "galloway".
(We don't need no stinking signs!)
Indeed, I rely on the looks of the road's direction, as opposed to the map's bends to figure which is right.
Yep, the next one down was galloway.
Another very steep run,
shortest way possable to get down to downieville from henness pass road.
Most people perfer to go up this. Again, I sent us down.
I was eventualy waved ahead to do the front as there were no more turns to take.
Was having a fine time in 2nd and 3rd until an ill fated manuver
sent me skidding straight to a stop on one of those out of control truck stopping type berms.
Still no trouble though, as dave arrived to see that indeed I made a boo boo...

More mountain to go down, then right into a neighborhood in downiville.
A stop there for mystic to wash his hands...
...right back on the bikes we headed south on 49 for less than a mile,
headed back onto dirt and the saddleback road.
This being another fun curvy run I think we all enjoyed,
because whether I was taking it easy or gassing it,
those guys were always right on my tail.
At the top on the saddle there's an intersection with signs pointing to
the saddleback lookout, poker flat, chimney rock ect...

...but we were on a loop and a mission to discover the fiddle creek trail.
Unfortunately we had been biting off more than we could chew...
I mean, here we are absorbing sunshine, yet fully realizing that time is short.

Going back down on road 25 is a mellow "down hill ridge run".
Through the eureka diggings and over bald top.
We found the exact road to turn on and took it.
A wonderful windy round canyon thing that was almost level all the way,
so it was great for powerslides and gassing it.
Then we came to an intersection which required a map check,
and yep, right here we should be at 27 and 25/8...
...this is it, but the sun is in the high trees now and the shade
and cold are coming on fast.

It was decided right there... no time to loose.
No time to do the fiddle creek trail.
It was time to just continue on down to highway 49
and hightail it back to the truck.
Although I hate to do it to the knobs, it was the best thing, all 3 there agreed.
Thoughout the day it was rays of sun on top,
but the canyons were dark and dank.
Down through Cal-Ida and a last check with all for a thumbs up...lets do this!
Hit 49 and we did the 55 limit when ever possable,
but I was extra careful in the turns because it's "slippey when wet or frosty"!
A numbing/butt burning experiance...
We made it back to the trucks and loaded up without an incident.
In fact, I never even fell over! LOL...(bad habit lately)
Damp roads of gushy mud sometimes. But most of it was perfect.
Not may people were out on this Sunday. Absolutely no dust!
Most of all...this was the best conditions you could ask for traction wise.
I had suited up at home and disrobed dirt gear back at home as well.
I had long johns on but never let on that I did...
...I don't know how those guys handled it. BUUURRRR
My fingers got cold while they sat in the summer riding gloves,
on the grips, gliding along in an ice box with a windchill factor.

The area of roads 27, and 25 where the fiddle creek trail is deserves a good deal more exploration.
We passed many, many signs begging the world to share the road with offroad hotdoggers.
(share the road)
The area is low enough to get into and use when the regular dirt riding "highcountry" is still snowed in for months!
The little extra drive beyond going to say, foresthill/georgetown should be worth it in newness,
underpopulated, varying degrees of difficulty available spots to scratch out.
Puts it high on a list for return trips.....next year.

That's the way it was!!!
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:16 PM   #677
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^^^ Holly cow, that is difficult to read on my little netbook! Had to do the ctl + move to enlarge that.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:23 PM   #678
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Well Tod, I know, but I figured that's what people would have to do...

It's not impossable!
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:45 PM   #679
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I was astounded by the size of the gravel bars along the sides of the creek past Red Dog. I'm assuming thats all eroding runoff from old hydraulic workings. Almost 150 years later and it's still there, amazing how destructive hydraulic mining was.
If you really want to know, that is not errosion SINCE hydraulic mining, that is the waste rock FROM the hydraulic mining. The source of that material you're seeing in Greenhorn Creek actually comes from the adjacent hydraulic mines from the next ridges over (in a different drainage).

By design many of the mines would "wash" that material from the walls within the "diggins" and once on the floor that slurry would be directed into a drain hole (or holes). Once it went into the drain hole it then flowed horizontally through the tunnel and was eventually deposited over into the next drainage. Those horizontal "drains" were essentially the giant sluce boxes and that is where the gold was recovered in the process. After that, all of the gravelly waste rock just accumulated in the drainage.

Warp ahead 70 years later and now that gravel material is once again being minded - but this time as an aggregate material. The ultimate plan is to try and return the creek bed back to a pre-hydraulic mining condition.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:50 AM   #680
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a BIG announcement

The moderators have granted me a Christmas wish.
I have now taken over a user's handle due to his inactivity, and my rightful place in the motorcycle world.

No longer identified on ADVRider as 22manyrides, and now consistant with my handle on other boards and youtube...

I am 2manyrides....Greetings for the new riding season!

The former....

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Old 12-28-2012, 07:30 PM   #681
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Arden Arcade here.
I just found this forum and would like to know if a green sticker will be ok on these rides or if I need a street legal bike. Thanks
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:29 PM   #682
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Nope,
You can truck it up to a spot like chalk bluff and ride the trails there. Maybe skirt the issue a bit and slide on down to washington or something, but you're just going to run into to many places where "you can't get there from here" type of thing. In 2010 the forest service came up with a new travel plan that even requires a plate on the dirt roads level 3 or higher. So green sticker means trails and 2 track jeep trails. Some ohv riding locations route dirt bikes on roads that they have designated as multi use so ohv riders can get from trail head to trail head, but your just not going to be able to run around the county on a dirt bike any more.

Watch for ride postings that say it's a green sticker ride. Or get a plated bike. It's a drag!

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Old 12-28-2012, 09:53 PM   #683
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Thank you. Next question is air cooled or water cooled bike. BTW, I have been riding for 30+ years and race MX. just branching out into trail riding
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:01 PM   #684
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Hey Pat,
air or water...Hmmm,
I have no water cooled bikes, so I can't really speak for what's better.
Obviously if a water cooled bike isn't having any hic-up's like leaks or thermastat problems then that'd be fine. The two riders in my group that have one have both had "situations" where the day was cut short due to overheating. Plus you've got more stuff on your bike. Fans, coolant, hoses and stuff. Still, there's a shift towards them out there from what I see on the trail. What bbike depends on what kind of riding you want to do.
525 KTM and XR650R...
Then again, in the high country, on a 100+ day, slow going on a rocky long up hill climb I've reached 313 degrees on my xr600r so it's half a dozen of one and 6 of the other. Typical an air cooled bike trail riding is not a problem and you don't HAVE to have a water cooled bike.

I might have mis led you a bit on my previous post as my group does do ohv only rides. There are less of that these days though, because we've gone to most all nearby places enough and my main goal is to explore, reach mountain tops, lakes, creeks and meadows. So the cherished ohv runs are more happening when there's an extended camp out in the summer. And in the high country.

Dualsport is a compromise, but you can jump from place to place and circle back around on the pavement if ya have to. You can link multipal locations together you wouldn't be able to on an ohv. As well through out the last 5 years or so I have been returning to places I had not visited in 30 years because as things changed it becomes impractical to go there and be locked in to a smaller area with an ohv. 30 years ago things were much more wide open. off highway vehicel use has risen 80% in those thirty years and they just have to regulate it or things get wrecked.

BTW welcome to the forum!
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:30 AM   #685
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Thank you. Next question is air cooled or water cooled bike. BTW, I have been riding for 30+ years and race MX. just branching out into trail riding
You generally get better power with a water cooled bike, but the simplicity of an air-cooled bike has its advantages. I've had a few motocross bikes that were water cooled, and that was great. Currently, I have an XR650L which is air cooled, and I prefer it that way.

Look around at the water cooled KLR650's and how many have extra junk on there to protect the radiators, or to hold things in place that were damaged in a crash. Air cooled means one less thing to have to worry about.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:12 PM   #686
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Thanks guys for the input.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:23 PM   #687
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New to AdvRider

New to Adventure Rider - but have been riding 37+ years now.
Though I have my CR500AF, my bike of choice is the good old XR650L.
There is something about a plate that makes up for so many other things.

I am on Motherlode Dual Sport and Thumper Talk, but Motherlode is pretty dead,
and Thumper Talk is useless for Nor Cal as so many jackass' have taken over you
cannot even post a decent ride report, let alone God forbid, you spun a tire in the dirt and
caused some dirt displaced.

Anyways - off my soap box and onto looking at rides in the area.

I live in Mount Aukum and Gold Note/Elkins Flat is only a 15 min jaunt on the slab
from my house, so I know that area real well.

I hook up with some guys from Forest Hill and Auburn and ride the Colfax, Power-House, etc. stuff a lot.
But - am always open to riding something new.

I am a decent rider and the bike, though not great looking, is very well maintained.

Just thought I would post a little here and maybe tag into some rides in the area.
Or, if anyone is interested in the Pipi, Omo Ranch, Highway 88 area - I am always riding there.

Good Ride:


Good Ride - Bad approach (the chain saw in the bag for trail maint didn't help):
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:34 PM   #688
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New to Adventure Rider - but have been riding 37+ years now.
Though I have my CR500AF, my bike of choice is the good old XR650L.
I also have an XR650L and would like to participate in more dual sport rides.

You can check out the Gold Country Dual Sport Riders on Yahoo : http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/GCDSR/ for more dual sport group rides. Although in a year and a half, I've only managed go on one of their rides. But I have good intentions.

You also might try the XR650-specific group on ThumperTalk: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/14-xr600650/
Not an awful lot of traffic, but if you watch it, you'll eventually get a lot of good information about the bike.

Or hang out here. Hopefully this group can put together a few good group rides too.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #689
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I also have an XR650L and would like to participate in more dual sport rides.

You can check out the Gold Country Dual Sport Riders on Yahoo : http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/GCDSR/ for more dual sport group rides. Although in a year and a half, I've only managed go on one of their rides. But I have good intentions.

You also might try the XR650-specific group on ThumperTalk: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/14-xr600650/
Not an awful lot of traffic, but if you watch it, you'll eventually get a lot of good information about the bike.

Or hang out here. Hopefully this group can put together a few good group rides too.
I have been all over Thumper Talk since 2004.
Was great - now - not so much.
The 650 portion is good - caught a few tips there.

I think GCDSR is more fire road and not single track.
I will check it out though.

I am just looking for other places that post rides.
Riding solo is fun at times, but a ride is usually more fun in a group.
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:34 PM   #690
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Keep us posted on the snow melt/access at elkins as the spring comes and we'll join you there. Right now there's not much can be done but relish the thought of the high sierras opening up again. Or of course lots of blacktop and little single track available. It is kind of fun to do the april 150 with GCDSR. I think for me last year that was the 180 riding from down here.
I've seen you name avatar on the motherlode forum. I have not joined them on a ride.
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