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Old 12-31-2012, 09:19 AM   #57241
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guess I better head home then

wife said the central heat is out again

guess ill be under the house today
I hate this house


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Old 12-31-2012, 09:22 AM   #57242
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Just call your landlord and have....................... oh wait, you OWN your house.
Heck Albie, if it's a light bulb out on a ceiling fan I call the office to have it replaced. Though I have had to do the ones in lamps all by myself....
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:50 AM   #57243
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Same here on Mt. Seq. with rain since early a.m. Trees are starting to ice and get longish icicles. If it gets colder this could get really nasty.

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Where are you at on Mt. Sequoia? I'm on Fletcher Avenue. If you are any higher up you probably ride right by my house to get to yours.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:03 AM   #57244
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Hell yeah! I will admit, after eating dust again yesterday, I'm happy that we're getting some very much needed rain. Just hope it doesn't all ice up.

There was dust???
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:05 AM   #57245
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ok just got back from under the house.

when heater is turned on this happens.

inducer fan starts blow
hot surface ignitor begins to glow

after 20 seconds, ignitor is turned off, and it starts over again.

no gas flow I guess?

there is a pressure valve diaphragm thingy on the side of unit with hose going to inducer fan, could this control the gas output valve?

I guess Ill verify gas flow into the gas valve first, then go from there.

any ideas are appreciated.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:11 AM   #57246
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ok just got back from under the house.

when heater is turned on this happens.

inducer fan starts blow
hot surface ignitor begins to glow

after 20 seconds, ignitor is turned off, and it starts over again.

no gas flow I guess?

there is a pressure valve diaphragm thingy on the side of unit with hose going to inducer fan, could this control the gas output valve?

I guess Ill verify gas flow into the gas valve first, then go from there.

any ideas are appreciated.
Thermocoupler????
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:18 AM   #57247
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What Wayno said
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:21 AM   #57248
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Yeah...if it's a newer unit ...flame detector....or what Wayno and Charlie suggest...! No signal to main valve.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:21 AM   #57249
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:46 AM   #57250
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hot surface ignitor and thermo couple were rplaced last year.

the thermo couple senses flame and lets the gas keep flowing.

its never opening the gas on start up to allow any flame.

I just cleaned the NPC and verified with a meter, inducer flow switches it.

its a 10 year old unit, im looking up the honeywell control unit, to try and see whats out of the loop here.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:53 AM   #57251
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I suggest starting with cheapest, most easily broken part. My guess is the sensor for the ignitor. If it says the ignitor surface is not hot enough, it won't open the gas valve. Our commercial boiler at the farm gets a new sensor about every-other-year due to it's failure. Same symptom. I'd crawl under the house with you, but I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:57 AM   #57252
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maybe I am not understanding what sensor you are referring to?

there are only 2 things in the burner area

a hot surface ignition ( glowey thing)

and a thermocouple ( flame sensor)

from my understanding, the control module opens gas valve for 4 seconds or so, if the flame sensor detects flame, then it leaves the valve open until the thermostat is satisfied.


In my situation, the valve is never opening.

glowey thing glows, then it goes out.

no flame

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Old 12-31-2012, 11:04 AM   #57253
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I might swap thermocouple first... Do you get a primary flame....like a pilot flame...then the main in normal operation?
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:12 AM   #57254
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LOL, I was like what the hell, why's this guy driving like 1 MPH.
Well everyone else keeps telling me to "slow down" so I thought I would try it. I slowed down enough to wave and point out the odd fellow on the motorcycle with "Eat Me" across the brim of his helmet to my passenger.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:22 AM   #57255
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I've got some roofing and sheet-rock work that I need done.
Anybody know of someone good and honest?

Hey Tokyo,

If you find someone willing to do roof repairs, let me know. Everyone I have contacted claims to be too busy for repairs (or just flat turns away that type of business). However, they have plenty of time to replace my entire roof (to the tune of $10k).
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