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Old 01-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #6511
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The map which comes with the Montana, topo 100k set, how is this different from City Navigator other then having topoís?
Does it show all the roads and streets? Will I be able to find destinations by address, intersections, city names, what have you?
I donít care much about the vender listings on CN but they can be useful.
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #6512
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Atlas,

I have it fixed and working. I used your advice, and did a bunch of other crap that I need to figure out again. I now see a nice track spanning the state of TN, YOU'RE THE MAN! Thanks!
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:23 PM   #6513
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The map which comes with the Montana, topo 100k set, how is this different from City Navigator other then having topoís?
Does it show all the roads and streets? Will I be able to find destinations by address, intersections, city names, what have you?
I donít care much about the vender listings on CN but they can be useful.
Garmin's 100K Topo Map has everything in common with Garbage. The Garmin 100K TOpo Maps are known to be off by 300 feet or more, quite regularly. These maps are only intended to give you a very general idea of where you are on the planet, and include severely limited detail.

Garmin's 24K Topo maps are much more accurate, and are routable. They include most streets and highways, but are not updated four times a year like City Navigator maps are. If you want to the latest and greatest up-to-date routable information, City Navigator is your best bet.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:50 PM   #6514
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Garmin's 100K Topo Map has everything in common with Garbage. .


Thanks. That answers that; I need to buy a map too with the Montana.

I have never updated my copy of City Navigator. Updates must be largely vender updates?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:58 PM   #6515
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Thanks. That answers that; I need to buy a map too with the Montana.

I have never updated my copy of City Navigator. Updates must be largely vender updates?
Before you buy a map, look here for information about free maps that may do everything you need.

City Nav, if purchased on DVD, is eligible for the Garmin lifetime update purchase.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:03 PM   #6516
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Interesting that Atlas and I have the same issue with enablement and you don't, so I will be experimenting as time allows.
Today I downloaded the most recent JaVaWa Device Manager and plugged my Montana in and ran the application to see if anything needed attention. I found MGV4 was not visible in Basecamp so I changed that, and ejected the Montana.

Next time I booted the Montana, MGV4 was visible again in all Profiles.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:18 PM   #6517
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Before you buy a map, look here for information about free maps that may do everything you need.
City Nav, if purchased on DVD, is eligible for the Garmin lifetime update purchase.
I have been very satisfied with City Navigator and I never felt a need to update it. I donít think I want lifetime updates; my experience is, the less I have to do with Garminís web site the better.

Thanks for the link; Iíll look at those free maps. But what I see me having is City Navigator and possibly a 24k topo map for specific areas.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:33 PM   #6518
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Next time I booted the Montana, MGV4 was visible again in all Profiles.
And is that what you wanted????

The more I use this thing, the more I suspect it of having a mind of it's own beyond what they coded into it!
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:41 PM   #6519
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And is that what you wanted????

The more I use this thing, the more I suspect it of having a mind of it's own beyond what they coded into it!
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Not what I wanted, but I kinda expected it. I don't think it has a mind of its own though, I figure it just thought it was a new map.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:27 PM   #6520
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Not what I wanted, but I kinda expected it. I don't think it has a mind of its own though, I figure it just thought it was a new map.
So, much like all GPX files on the Montana, each time it boots and detects any modification, the file is re-indexed and made visible in all profiles.

You would think they could leave this step out for maps, as the user gets to decide which maps are enabled/disabled, unlike other files on the Montana (GPX, etc), which most of us have been begging Garmin for the ability to enable/disable also, for quite some time...
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:47 AM   #6521
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So, much like all GPX files on the Montana, each time it boots and detects any modification, the file is re-indexed and made visible in all profiles.
I too wish it did not re-index after boot.

I suspect they chose the way they do it to avoid the "I just installed a map and it does not show up" support call.

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:48 AM   #6522
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Which do you recomend the CD or microSD data card for North America City Navigator NT?
I have two Garmin gps units (Montana 600 and eTrex 20) so I got CNNA on a uSD card because I could use it on both units without purchasing two separate licenses. If you have only one gps, get CNNA on DVD.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:50 AM   #6523
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Speaking of topo maps, I have an old version 3.02 of US Topo.



Do you all think it will work on the Montana?

Is it even worth installing?

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Old 01-02-2013, 08:00 AM   #6524
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Speaking of topo maps, I have an old version 3.02 of US Topo.



Do you all think it will work on the Montana?

Is it even worth installing?

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How old is that? What year?

It will work, but many users have reported painfully slow search functions and routing functions with older Garmin topo maps on Montana.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:23 AM   #6525
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Atlas,

All I remember is I got it when I got my GPSmap 60C. The copywrite on the bottom of the box says 1999-2002 and I suspect I got it before 2000 so it's pretty old.

Maybe I'll load it on the computer and look at my local riding area to see what trails are missing.

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