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Old 01-01-2013, 11:12 PM   #451
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JUmped on my friends 2013 FE501 this weekend and just loved the thing. Light, nimble - makes my 690E feel piggy especially for the day rides without bags. So now I'm jonesing for a lightweight street legal enduro bike to supplement the 690e and 12GS stable.

The question is should I get the older 570. I like the berg-specific, 'classic' nature of the 70deg motor and the assumed displacement advantage, but I don't want a pita bike to service and farkle. I just want to do day rides on it and I'm not that demanding - I'm a noob on dirt and my bigger bikes are kinda dangerous for riders of my age (48) and experience level on technical trails. So considering the 570 really depends on answers to the following:

Are larger fuel tank options available?

Are servicing and parts difficult to get in Los Angeles?

Are these bikes really 250 lbs dry (has anyone weighed theirs?)

Are there mfr design problems (like my ktm's fuel pump, lighting, throttle snatchiness, etc)?

Do you think this is a significantly easier bike to learn dirt riding on than my 690e?

I'm sure these questions have all be addressed in this long thread, but maybe someone can give me a quick reply since I'm just starting to consider this bike and can't afford the time to sift through all the info out there. Thanks for the help.

Fuel capacity is a problem and the aftermarket stuff isn't that elegant.

KTM parts are what they are, I have no problems in NJ???

I think closer to 265 true weight, only heavy under human power.

All KTM problems carry over IMO. It is a KTM but more rare and a total PITA to work on except the air filter.

Much better than the 690 but a legal 250/350 would probably be even better.
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:13 PM   #452
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Are larger fuel tank options available?
By far and away the best 'large' tank for the 570 is from 70 Degree Racing - it simply replaces the bike's existing underseat subframe and is a work of beauty!

However, there has been a production holdup for some time now. Dale Covington has worked tirelessly to bring these tanks back on line and is confronted with one heartbreaking holdup after another.

I am fortunate to have one of his original batch. Believe me, they are worth waiting for!

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Old 01-01-2013, 11:17 PM   #453
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By far and away the best 'large' tank for the 570 is from 70 Degree Racing - it simply replaces the bike's existing underseat subframe and is a work of beauty!

However, there has been a production holdup for some time now. Dale Covinton has worked tirelessly to bring these tanks back on line and is confronted with one heartbreaking holdup after another.

I am fortunate to have one of his original batch. Believe me, they are worth waiting for!

Greg

And I have one of the leakers.

Who really knows if they will ever get the right at this point. I'm glad I wasn't holding my breath for them. With the KTMs or 2013 Burgs you can't swing a stick without hitting a great tank option.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:25 AM   #454
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Is there any real advantage of the 570 motor over the 2013 KTM engined FE510cc? In other words, are there enough disadvantages to the 570 that I should just get a new KTM/Berg

Do the 2011 570's have the same POS fuel pump that comes on the KTM 690's? I was looking at Profil fuel socks and the part numbers are the same for the 570 bergs and the 690 ktms. If it's the same pump, it's gonna get tossed before 20 miles passes. No use in reliving the KTM nightmare.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:28 AM   #455
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Fuel capacity is a problem and the aftermarket stuff isn't that elegant.
Wondering what other solutions there are besides the 70deg Racing subframe tank (still unavailable).

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Much better than the 690 but a legal 250/350 would probably be even better.
Why's that?
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:22 AM   #456
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Safari has a rear Dakar style tank and a tank that fits over the front tank.

A 250 or 350 feels 50 lbs lighter due to the significantly lighter crank mass. The 500s will plow more and resist direction changes. The 250/350s are very tossable, and the power won't bully you around in tighter goings. My son can whip me on a 125cc 2t so don't think they are slow. My own lap times on a 250 compared to a 450 are the same but I turn the 250f better.

Shop the Husky 250/310 and KTM 350 too.

The Burgs were a simple tank resdeign from being excellent. As they are they suck to take apart. The 570 has great power but nobody says the 500/501 doesn't have plenty too.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:00 PM   #457
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Safari has a rear Dakar style tank and a tank that fits over the front tank.

A 250 or 350 feels 50 lbs lighter due to the significantly lighter crank mass. The 500s will plow more and resist direction changes. The 250/350s are very tossable, and the power won't bully you around in tighter goings. My son can whip me on a 125cc 2t so don't think they are slow. My own lap times on a 250 compared to a 450 are the same but I turn the 250f better.

Shop the Husky 250/310 and KTM 350 too.

The Burgs were a simple tank resdeign from being excellent. As they are they suck to take apart. The 570 has great power but nobody says the 500/501 doesn't have plenty too.
I've ridden the 2013 Berg/KTM 500's and yes they feel lighter but they vibrate a LOT more than the FE series bikes at higher speeds. For dual sporting I really think the FE series is better and smoother, although now on the secondary market.

Be sure to check these other threads for tankage options


Husaberg 70 Degree Owners Thread (the mega FE thread)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639366


The Husaberg 70 FE Adventure Traveler Thread

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782994
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:54 PM   #458
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So,

What happened to Codemonkee's berg? Did he ever get a Safari tank? Heated grips for the snow? Who shot JR?

Thought I would try applying the PAcker Whacker to this thread and see if it revives enoug to answer all these burning questions and more.

Chris
Sorry.

I moved to Orygun, got a corporate job, then bought a house. I haven't had a chance to ride for a while I have been so busy between the job and moving and then buying a house (my first).

Good thing is I have a man cave (aka shop) and there sits my Hussy - ignored, along with the Beta Alp (which I haven't ridden yet).

But now my Hussy is a collector's item (just like the 2 stroke Beta Alp); they don't make them anymore.

I got another truck though (big Dodge is in the man cave with a blown 5th gear), this time with a bed low enough to roll the bikes up into, so now all I need to do is get the Lock-n-Load bike thingy and go out and ride - when it stops being sold cold the ground isn't frozen.

And no, I haven't got anything more for the bike - it is torn apart right now awaiting my attention (I was going to wrap the silencer and put on some new bars and stuff, but then I got this new job and...
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I don't see why people think fuel tanks are a problem on these bikes. You have a choice of:

1) subframe tank (I have one and I like it)

2) Front Safari tank

3) rear Safari tank

Altogether, with the stock tank, you get something like 8 gallons well spread out over the bike, with much of it down low. Plus you can add or subtract as you see fit; you can add or subtract the Safari tanks.

How many dual sports allow you to have four separate tanks and the ability to easily remove two of them, and one of them is under the seat down low?

I think the tank/fuel situation on the 70 deg. bikes is optimum.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:56 AM   #460
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guys I am thinking of picking one of these up. Does anyone know the updates over the years from 09-11 as I have an option of a well modded 09 or a low hour 11 for the same price. Also, how much do you think these bikes are worth nowadays?

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Old 09-11-2013, 09:08 AM   #461
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guys I am thinking of picking one of these up. Does anyone know the updates over the years from 09-11 as I have an option of a well modded 09 or a low hour 11 for the same price. Also, how much do you think these bikes are worth nowadays?

thanks,
J
From 2009 to 2011 MY, the differences are:
  • revised cam chain tensioner
  • strengthened headstock
  • blue rims (maybe - seems to depend where you are)
  • Different bars and levers
  • Closed cartridge forks
  • revised graphics (yellow lettering on 2011)

There may have been other stuff going on with fuel pumps and in-line filters.

2011 models are priceless.
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:24 AM   #462
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I wouldn't sweat which year model to get, look for the best value bike.

You can get a new CA-Cycleworks fuel pump for $130, and while the CC forks are nice, the OCs can be made to work very well also.

I'd take a well-farkled and taken care off 2009 over a clapped out 2012 any day.
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