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Old 12-31-2012, 11:17 AM   #31
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Tom , no reason why you should try to avoid Cd Victoria
Nothing there to fear and much to look forward to.It is an interesting
prosperous city, good hotels and good routes.
For instance Mex 101 south out of the city
THAT IS a road you Must take - even if you are
going to go south farther on Mex 85!
Mex 101 leaves the southwest corner of Cd Victoria
and winds and climbs up on and over the forested mountains
A great bike road! On the downward west side you will
come to the junction of a much newer south - bypass
fast truck route state highway
which you can use to zip back east through the scenic
canyon landscape to reconnect with Mex 85 about 20 km
south of the city . Well worth the trouble on a nice day.
Or you could stay the course on Mex 101 and ride the high desert
south through Jaumave, Tula and at that town pick up
the state roads east across the mountains to Ocampo and
rejoin Mex 85 at Cd Mante or Antiguo Morelos.
Mind you the route I describe is VERY DANGEROUS !😉
You will be so tempted and distracted by all the alluring
side roads of gravel and pavement that you will be constantly
debating which ones you want to explore. You lads may not
even reach the outlined blue zone of your maps before you need
to head home.😂
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:24 PM   #32
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Sjoerd. That looks temptafying. Of course, looking at the Guia Roji that little road from Jaumave down to Nicolas Bravo then to Ocampo then to Nuevo Morelos might be something looking at the topo shading. Hey. Might as well Test out the unintentional camping gear. El Naranjo has been on the list from the start and that gets us close.
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:07 PM   #33
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That Reserva Biosphera el cielo has piqued my interest for a long time. I am gonna put some adv and google-fu on it and see what I can find.

I have an older state map which shows some roads across. Hmmmmm.

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:03 PM   #34
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:55 PM   #35
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Rich. Pm incoming . ;)
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:00 AM   #36
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very interested in this.


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Old 01-03-2013, 12:18 PM   #37
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Brad. Like everything in our lives, this thing changes on the hour. lol thelawnguy81 has talked KTM into some warranty work on some known starter problem so we'll see how that goes.

Right now we are looking into the area around Mante for night one. Would love to be near those waterfalls.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:41 AM   #38
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Found this old old report from Richard and Milton. http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...ight=aramberri

Could make for an interesting detour. Sheesh. We'll never make Tolantongo.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:56 AM   #39
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Too much to see.
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Found this old old report from Richard and Milton. http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...ight=aramberri

Could make for an interesting detour. Sheesh. We'll never make Tolantongo.
You might try a fourteen day run...less rush and see more....
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:49 PM   #41
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Wouldn't that be nice? I haven't had 14 days off in a row since I was 16 years old.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:31 PM   #42
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INEGI maps. Sweet. Used these last time for dirt roads.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:33 PM   #43
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The E32 cartographia GPS download has been recommended by a fella who rides dirt down there. Looks like something to check out.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:39 PM   #44
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Got this in today. :

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Old 01-12-2013, 11:21 AM   #45
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Well, I have marked up Sjoerd's Mexico hotel book pretty good already.


Also found this right here on adv http://www.grupobm.com/Localizador%2...ador_mapas.htm

http://www.grupobm.com/Localizador%2.../queretaro.htm


Seems to be the same maps that Richard over on TwoWheeledTexans uses. miltonotto uses some INEGI maps that have better definition but I can't find those anywhere. So far.
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