Beta RR /RS 4T enduro thread - Page 25

ballisticexchris · 11-12-2012, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallyWhirled

It was the Icon Variant helmet that I was thinking about. If I were shopping for a new DS helmet I'd give it serious consideration.

http://www.rideicon.com/products/?ca...Id=993#variant

I tried every helmet I could at Crapperalls. The Shoei fit the best, just like a glove!. I can live with the visor. I have been wearing Shoei's since I was a kid. The Arai was really nice but fit like crap (the top scull portion was too loose front to back). All the other helmets pinched my ears.

HoosierTrailmaster · 11-27-2012, 11:59 AM

Hi,

I have the opportunity to buy a 2005 525 RR low miles, very well priced. Is there anything I should be aware of? I have had the KTM 525 ( know it is a RFS engine in the Beta). Is this bike better or worse than that bike?

Thanks!

Pitster · 11-28-2012, 10:45 PM

Anyone have the 2013 bikes in stock yet? Reviews?
Looking at buying a new bike and the 498rr looks REAL tempting!!

GetDirtyDave · 12-13-2012, 12:01 PM

Just wanted to let everyone know we have started a new Beta Talk Forum. The web address is www.getdirtydirtbikes.com/blog. It is new and we are still working on it so any suggestions will certainly be appreciated.
Come join the discussion!
Dave

WallyWhirled · 12-30-2012, 09:55 AM

Beta 450 wins Best Enduro Bike of the Year Award

http://m.motorcycle-usa.com/801/1514...ta-450-RR.aspx

vfrpilot · 01-02-2013, 01:02 PM

Just got me a new 2011 400RR
Can't wait to get it dirty!

MartiniUp · 01-04-2013, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vfrpilot

Just got me a new 2011 400RR
Can't wait to get it dirty!

Report is mandatory.

velocityjunky · 01-04-2013, 08:15 PM

I just became a betafile too. this was stillwells 350 shop bike.
coming from a yz250 2 stroke, should be interesting

velocityjunky · 01-05-2013, 08:17 PM

Ride report:

VERY nice bike. The motor is nowhere near as "exciting" as my yz250 but is great in many other ways. It is very smooth and finds traction everywhere! And is much easier to play around on, I was trying things that I would have been intimidated to on my 2stroke. It grunts around great but spins up and revs really nice which I like, not sure I would be a fan of a big bore torque monster 4t coming from the 2t .

I will have to adjust my style, but by the end of the day I was really clicking with the bike. on the 2 stroke it's a lot of noise and dust and both wheels are never pointed in the same direction, its exciting and feels fast as hell but is alot of effort, and mental processing, for the amount of forward progress. On the beta you have to think ahead as you are carrying a lot more weight but, slow your mind down a bit, be smooth,**and the bike rewards you. Seat of the pants im faster on the 2t, but by the stopwatch i wouldn't be surprised if i was faster on the beta.The weight is good and bad, as long as you are carrying momentum it tracks through rocks and whoops way better than the yz which deflects and kicks a bit. However come to a near stop and it's harder to get the extra weight moving again, so momentum is your friend. Turning the bike around on the side of a hill is WAY more effort, but the rekluse makes it easy to get it pointed in the right direction again. Once moving it masks it's weight VERY well.

The suspension is very good, but it was revalved by stillwell, I rode a 2011 450rr and the forks sucked compared to my yz setup, this bike is comparable to the yz. Not sure what stock feels like but this bike is good.

In slower speeds the bike turns like no full sized bike I've ridden, it is so easy to plant a foot and turn 180, or negotiate technical switchbacks. At higher speeds the front end is a little twitchy and floats a little too much. I had it push, go numb a few times, like it was about to grip and tank slap, but it never did. I'd think a bit of ride height adjustment could settle it down, maybe a damper. It wasn't horrible in fact it reminded me a bit of how the 2t floats around under neath of you.**I'd rather have it this way than have a heavy feeling tank like some 4t ive ridden. However It definitely carries more weight on the rear than the front which takes some getting used to, It takes effort to get the rear end to float around like the front wants to do.**Ultimately I think the light front heavy rear feeling is what makes it so good at the slower technical stuff, very trials bike like.

A buddy has a ktm 350xc and I bet it's better at the fast stuff, but I KNOW it's not as good in the tighter stuff.

Overall I really like it and have no hesitations selling my yz. Are they different ? YES, but are they both really really good and tons of fun? YES.**I'm very glad I got it and look forward to seeking out trails that are more suited to it than my yz.

I hope this helps get someone else off the fence as there should be more of these betas out on the trail

angelo_balto · 01-06-2013, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainless_1

Just released on web

http://www.americanbeta.com/node/801

Just rode it and it's fantastic !!!!
Best Enduro 2t I have ridden ever. Engine with a real grunt & feels lighter than the 498RR ... Brilliant for the trails

angelo_balto · 01-06-2013, 03:32 PM

That being said, still think that the 498RR is the best enduro bike ever built.

A beginner can learn how to ride with it & a pro can win championships with it ... what more can you ask

It is the first bike that I have ridden that haven't found a single think that I would change on it. Just brilliant !!

windyhill · 01-06-2013, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WallyWhirled

Beta 450 wins Best Enduro Bike of the Year Award

http://m.motorcycle-usa.com/801/1514...ta-450-RR.aspx

That's impossible, it doesn't have FI.

WallyWhirled · 01-07-2013, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelo_balto

Just rode it and it's fantastic !!!!
Best Enduro 2t I have ridden ever. Engine with a real grunt & feels lighter than the 498RR ... Brilliant for the trails

I rode the 300 RR 2t this weekend. It's like riding a 200 MPH Mountain Bike.

hawaiidirtrider · 01-18-2013, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelo_balto

That being said, still think that the 498RR is the best enduro bike ever built.

A beginner can learn how to ride with it & a pro can win championships with it ... what more can you ask

It is the first bike that I have ridden that haven't found a single think that I would change on it. Just brilliant !!

Right now when I look at all the bikes the Beta 498 and the 300 2t are my 2 favorite bikes of all.. Amazing that my choice is from the same company.

hawaiidirtrider · 01-18-2013, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelo_balto

Just rode it and it's fantastic !!!!
Best Enduro 2t I have ridden ever. Engine with a real grunt & feels lighter than the 498RR ... Brilliant for the trails

yup.. This is the perfect duo/upgrade for my garage!!!!!

I'm still very happy with my 09 Beta 525 , 01' 250 cr and gasgas 300 01'.. They work awesome and they're all set up... but I'd say your picture above is the ultimate.. for me and my riding around here at least.

11-27-2012, 11:59 AM	#362
HoosierTrailmaster Just an Old Grizzly Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Under the Tucson Sun Oddometer: 2,089	Help Hi, I have the opportunity to buy a 2005 525 RR low miles, very well priced. Is there anything I should be aware of? I have had the KTM 525 ( know it is a RFS engine in the Beta). Is this bike better or worse than that bike? Thanks! __________________ '06 Beta RR 525 "Red KTM" '02 GasGas EC 300..."The Smoke" '10 KTM 990 ADV R "Brutus Beefcakes"

11-28-2012, 10:45 PM	#363
Pitster miniac Joined: Aug 2007 Oddometer: 343	Anyone have the 2013 bikes in stock yet? Reviews? Looking at buying a new bike and the 498rr looks REAL tempting!! __________________ www.pitsterpro.com Pitster Pro, Mini Bikes, Pit bikes and Play bikes, Side x Side, ATV www.nomadrider.com Adventure luggage and gear

12-13-2012, 12:01 PM	#364
GetDirtyDave n00b Joined: Oct 2010 Location: High Desert Oddometer: 6	New Beta Talk Forum Just wanted to let everyone know we have started a new Beta Talk Forum. The web address is www.getdirtydirtbikes.com/blog. It is new and we are still working on it so any suggestions will certainly be appreciated. Come join the discussion! Dave __________________ Dave Turner

12-30-2012, 09:55 AM	#365
WallyWhirled Studly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2008 Location: United States Oddometer: 738	Enduro Bike of the Year Beta 450 wins Best Enduro Bike of the Year Award http://m.motorcycle-usa.com/801/1514...ta-450-RR.aspx __________________ KTM 950 Super Enduro, KTM 950 Adventure, KTM 950 Supermoto Beta 520 RS, BMW R1200 GSA, Rickman Cafe Racer

01-02-2013, 01:02 PM	#366
vfrpilot Stress Relief Rider Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Decatur, Illinois Oddometer: 479	Just joined the ranks Just got me a new 2011 400RR Can't wait to get it dirty! __________________ 2001 F650GS 2007 G650X-Challenge 2011 Beta 400RR 2011 990 ADV R 2012 R1200GSA Triple Black

01-04-2013, 08:15 PM	#368
velocityjunky Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Denver Oddometer: 187	I just became a betafile too. this was stillwells 350 shop bike. coming from a yz250 2 stroke, should be interesting __________________ Motorcycles- The best way to turn money into smoke and noise.

01-05-2013, 08:17 PM	#369
velocityjunky Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Denver Oddometer: 187	Ride report: VERY nice bike. The motor is nowhere near as "exciting" as my yz250 but is great in many other ways. It is very smooth and finds traction everywhere! And is much easier to play around on, I was trying things that I would have been intimidated to on my 2stroke. It grunts around great but spins up and revs really nice which I like, not sure I would be a fan of a big bore torque monster 4t coming from the 2t . I will have to adjust my style, but by the end of the day I was really clicking with the bike. on the 2 stroke it's a lot of noise and dust and both wheels are never pointed in the same direction, its exciting and feels fast as hell but is alot of effort, and mental processing, for the amount of forward progress. On the beta you have to think ahead as you are carrying a lot more weight but, slow your mind down a bit, be smooth,and the bike rewards you. Seat of the pants im faster on the 2t, but by the stopwatch i wouldn't be surprised if i was faster on the beta.The weight is good and bad, as long as you are carrying momentum it tracks through rocks and whoops way better than the yz which deflects and kicks a bit. However come to a near stop and it's harder to get the extra weight moving again, so momentum is your friend. Turning the bike around on the side of a hill is WAY more effort, but the rekluse makes it easy to get it pointed in the right direction again. Once moving it masks it's weight VERY well. The suspension is very good, but it was revalved by stillwell, I rode a 2011 450rr and the forks sucked compared to my yz setup, this bike is comparable to the yz. Not sure what stock feels like but this bike is good. In slower speeds the bike turns like no full sized bike I've ridden, it is so easy to plant a foot and turn 180, or negotiate technical switchbacks. At higher speeds the front end is a little twitchy and floats a little too much. I had it push, go numb a few times, like it was about to grip and tank slap, but it never did. I'd think a bit of ride height adjustment could settle it down, maybe a damper. It wasn't horrible in fact it reminded me a bit of how the 2t floats around under neath of you.I'd rather have it this way than have a heavy feeling tank like some 4t ive ridden. However It definitely carries more weight on the rear than the front which takes some getting used to, It takes effort to get the rear end to float around like the front wants to do.Ultimately I think the light front heavy rear feeling is what makes it so good at the slower technical stuff, very trials bike like. A buddy has a ktm 350xc and I bet it's better at the fast stuff, but I KNOW it's not as good in the tighter stuff. Overall I really like it and have no hesitations selling my yz. Are they different ? YES, but are they both really really good and tons of fun? YES.I'm very glad I got it and look forward to seeking out trails that are more suited to it than my yz. I hope this helps get someone else off the fence as there should be more of these betas out on the trail __________________ Motorcycles- The best way to turn money into smoke and noise.

01-06-2013, 03:32 PM	#371
angelo_balto his Royal Dudeness Joined: May 2012 Location: Athens-Greece Oddometer: 41	That being said, still think that the 498RR is the best enduro bike ever built. A beginner can learn how to ride with it & a pro can win championships with it ... what more can you ask It is the first bike that I have ridden that haven't found a single think that I would change on it. Just brilliant !! __________________ Ambition is a dream with a V8 engine

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