New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST - Page 456

Albie · 01-08-2013, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadian_Bacon

If you are going to be ripping around the track maybe consider the new duke 690? Same engine, frame, more suited for aggressive road riding. Would be a lot cheaper than getting a brand new enduro, evo kit, and 17" wheels and rubber. :). The new duke is listed roughly $1200 cheaper than the enduro, then I'd get a cheap dirt bike or dual sport to go play in the dirt with. Fixing and kitting up a 690 enduro can get pricy.

Nah, the 690 SMC/Enduro is more fun on a track then the Duke.

FriedDuck · 01-08-2013, 09:53 AM

I bought a '12 seat from an inmate and its a lot better than my '08. Better i think than the Corbin but ill let you know after some time.

Anyway it's wider in back and has more foam than the original. Cheap(ish) upgrade.

I'll post a pic shortly

Gros Buck · 01-08-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SKINNY

I've left tire marks on my tank several times...if you bottom the shock, a Bridgestone 120/100 tire will definitely rub on the 2008 model...

Huh !?!?!?!?!?

You call yourself SKINNY ????

You have to be unbelievably heavy to do that. People loaded like mules ride the bike without a problem ... Really, I never heard of that, and I think I had all the problems that could be ... A friend and I were riding last summer until he kissed the ground (the circus way) for no apparent reasons ... I was laughing my lungs out thinking he was just a sucking noob, up until we rose the bike up and found this :

Wedges cannot get any sexier then that

... Maybe the tractionator tires are too agressives

Paul Jr 8

SKINNY · 01-08-2013, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gros Buck

Huh !?!?!?!?!?

You call yourself SKINNY ????

You have to be unbelievably heavy to do that. People loaded like mules ride the bike without a problem ... Really, I never heard of that, and I think I had all the problems that could be ...
Paul Jr 8

I was so skinny at age 18, the Army wouldn't take me...

I weigh a bit more now...

I run my compression dampening on the soft side and it will bottom occasionally on big hits...
Driving off a 3 or 4 ft. dirt bank into a dry stream bed at speed or jumping stuff is usually the cause...

FriedDuck · 01-08-2013, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriedDuck

I bought a '12 seat from an inmate and its a lot better than my '08. Better i think than the Corbin but ill let you know after some time.

Anyway it's wider in back and has more foam than the original. Cheap(ish) upgrade.

I'll post a pic shortly

Side by side. It's hard to tell but in the back it's about 1" wider, and it's significantly more plush.

Harty · 01-08-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoots

RallyRaid Evo-2 Tanks
Has anyone fitted the new Evo-2 tanks from Rally Raid UK?
Without the Adv of rally fairing – i.e. with the RR tank shrouds only?
If so, could you provide some pics? From each side, and from the rider’s perspective.

Try following this thread for the Evo2kit

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=832366

Hoots · 01-08-2013, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harty

Try following this thread for the Evo2kit

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=832366

Ta - I hadn't realised that the Evo2 tanks / fairing were so newly released - no wonder no pics yet ...

Gros Buck · 01-08-2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKINNY

I was so skinny at age 18, the Army wouldn't take me...

I weigh a bit more now...

I run my compression dampening on the soft side and it will bottom occasionally on big hits...
Driving off a 3 or 4 ft. dirt bank into a dry stream bed at speed or jumping stuff is usually the cause...

I do bottom out once in a while, but my tires never grind the tank ...

Ok. Us army refuse skinnies, but accept women ??? That's illogical Spock !!!

Do you have a pict of that renegade rear suspension and tank duet ???

Paul Jr 8

SKINNY · 01-09-2013, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gros Buck

I do bottom out once in a while, but my tires never grind the tank ...

Ok. Us army refuse skinnies, but accept women ??? That's illogical Spock !!!

Do you have a pict of that renegade rear suspension and tank duet ???

Paul Jr 8

I sold the 2008 model a few weeks ago...
So far, I haven't rubbed the tire on the 2012 model, but I haven't tried to leap tall buildings yet...

Gustavo.Ramos · 01-09-2013, 06:28 AM

A friend's 690'10 Enduro R has this weird behavior:

when closing the throttle and pulling the clutch, the idle drops so low that sometimes the engine stall... This does not happen always, sometimes the revs drop low but still it manages to keep working.

Upon some testing the idle drops but slowly (maybe the idle stepper motor) gets the revs back to normal idle.

tried loading a different map (EFI & EPT) with TuneECU, noticed the TPS value is a bit high (0,7 warm).

Cold start is normal, revs go up, then go down, only when riding if closing the gas and pulling the clutch it acts like this.

Clutch switch is disabled so the bike thinks the clutch is always pressed.

Anyone had this before?

yuu · 01-09-2013, 06:31 AM

Stock or aftermarket exhaust?

Gustavo.Ramos · 01-09-2013, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by yuu

Stock or aftermarket exhaust?

Forgot to mention.

Akro exhaust.

does same thing with stock airfilter and powerparts foam filter with open ktm cover.

Loaded the Akro Evo1 map and didn't change the stall behavior. Changes noticed only at higher revs.

yuu · 01-09-2013, 06:46 AM

Aaah - the slip-on is the original cause. The less restrictive pipe doesn't give enough back pressure.

I had a similar problem on mine. The PO had installed a FMF Q4, but not remapped. If I removed the baffle/spark arrestor from the Q4 it would stall very often as I coasted to a stop - just like what's happening to your buddy.

First step should be loading those Akro maps, both of them back to the bike.
*YOU MUST* do both the throttle position reset and the idle reset procedures when you load a new map suite. Failing to do so, especially the idle reset will result in a whole lot of ZERO change. So ensure that the Akro map is being correctly uploaded to the bike and then the proper resets are being done

If you're feeling more industrious some folks at SMJ did some real testing and data logging
http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...s-with-TuneECU

I'm running an EVO1 lid with K&N type filter at the intake and an Apex or Q4 (woods) with mappings based on the work on that thread and the bike runs like a champ.

Gustavo.Ramos · 01-09-2013, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuu

Aaah - the slip-on is the original cause. The less restrictive pipe doesn't give enough back pressure.

Not trying to spoil your conclusions, but let me add more information:

Did both the throttle reset, key on, switch on, slowly go to full throttle then go back slowly, switch off, key off and then did the 15 minute idlefar away from the bike, not letting anyone touch it. Noticeable results only in the high revs with smoother and more powerfull response, weverything else remained unchanged.

I also own a 690 R with akro slip on, foam filter and open powerparts airbox cover (my friend used my bike's parts too for testing purpose to pinpoint any changes). Never had a hickup or sort of. Ran it with both db killer and without. Only difference was louder operation... Till a few weeks ago i had the stock map and zero issues, never had any stall or related to clutch stalling problem, fires instantly, engine response is great and so is fuel economy.

Loaded the akro map, only change was also in the higher revs. Everything else is almost perfect with the exception of two ocasiosn on decel the engine kept accelerating for a fraction of a second but then acted normally again.

i'll dig into SMJ too.

yuu · 01-09-2013, 08:46 AM

Hmm, the description of the problem is very consistent with the troubles folks have documented when going from the stock to aftermarket exhaust without a remapping. Hence my first line of thought.

Though it would effect the running over all - has the fuel filter been replaced? The injector cleaned?
I recently replaced by fuel filter at 4XXX miles and it was in terrible condition. Not long after I sent out the injector for a pro cleaning. When I got it back the notes stated that the plastic screen was coming apart and there was filter debris in the injector and the spray pattern before service was noted a 'poor'

With the filter an injector dirt issues these bikes are known for it might be some time for more digging in to ensure everything is right as rain.

01-08-2013, 09:53 AM	#6827
FriedDuck Why die all tensed up? Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Decatur, GA Oddometer: 325	Please be seated I bought a '12 seat from an inmate and its a lot better than my '08. Better i think than the Corbin but ill let you know after some time. Anyway it's wider in back and has more foam than the original. Cheap(ish) upgrade. I'll post a pic shortly

01-09-2013, 06:28 AM	#6835
Gustavo.Ramos Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Accross the pond Oddometer: 407	690 engine stalls A friend's 690'10 Enduro R has this weird behavior: when closing the throttle and pulling the clutch, the idle drops so low that sometimes the engine stall... This does not happen always, sometimes the revs drop low but still it manages to keep working. Upon some testing the idle drops but slowly (maybe the idle stepper motor) gets the revs back to normal idle. tried loading a different map (EFI & EPT) with TuneECU, noticed the TPS value is a bit high (0,7 warm). Cold start is normal, revs go up, then go down, only when riding if closing the gas and pulling the clutch it acts like this. Clutch switch is disabled so the bike thinks the clutch is always pressed. Anyone had this before? __________________ Growing old is mandatory... growing up is optional! Raid de L'Amitié 2011 RR (link) 690R & 990Adv

01-09-2013, 06:31 AM	#6836
yuu Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Southie, Arlington like Oddometer: 107	Stock or aftermarket exhaust? __________________ Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.

01-09-2013, 06:46 AM	#6838
yuu Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Southie, Arlington like Oddometer: 107	Aaah - the slip-on is the original cause. The less restrictive pipe doesn't give enough back pressure. I had a similar problem on mine. The PO had installed a FMF Q4, but not remapped. If I removed the baffle/spark arrestor from the Q4 it would stall very often as I coasted to a stop - just like what's happening to your buddy. First step should be loading those Akro maps, both of them back to the bike. YOU MUST do both the throttle position reset and the idle reset procedures when you load a new map suite. Failing to do so, especially the idle reset will result in a whole lot of ZERO change. So ensure that the Akro map is being correctly uploaded to the bike and then the proper resets are being done If you're feeling more industrious some folks at SMJ did some real testing and data logging http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...s-with-TuneECU I'm running an EVO1 lid with K&N type filter at the intake and an Apex or Q4 (woods) with mappings based on the work on that thread and the bike runs like a champ. __________________ Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.

01-09-2013, 08:46 AM	#6840
yuu Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2011 Location: Southie, Arlington like Oddometer: 107	Hmm, the description of the problem is very consistent with the troubles folks have documented when going from the stock to aftermarket exhaust without a remapping. Hence my first line of thought. Though it would effect the running over all - has the fuel filter been replaced? The injector cleaned? I recently replaced by fuel filter at 4XXX miles and it was in terrible condition. Not long after I sent out the injector for a pro cleaning. When I got it back the notes stated that the plastic screen was coming apart and there was filter debris in the injector and the spray pattern before service was noted a 'poor' With the filter an injector dirt issues these bikes are known for it might be some time for more digging in to ensure everything is right as rain. __________________ Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes. Good luck.

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