VW JEtta Sportwagon TDI (diesel)

[aceluck]

Originally Posted by Bueller

Yes. It it is almost always more miles than most brand new car purchasers will keep a car. Additionally, though you might not have an interest in a hybrid if mileage is what you are after to also have to look at those options, and then compare all of it to the kind of driving you do.

When my commute was 100 - 150 miles a day, the TDI made sense. We had two of them. Now living in the city a Chevy Volt would make the most sense, but since I'm only driving 10,000 - 12,000 miles a year I opted to drive what I really enjoy and not worry about mileage. The miles I commute on a bike help offset the poor fuel mileage of the 4 wheel vehicles anyway.

Hey Bueller, what exactly is it that you drive that you really enjoy?

[NikonsAndVStroms]

Does anyone have the latest generation Jetta or Golf? My mother needs a new car and since I'm loving my VW so much she wants to check those 2 cars out but the big question is how are they in the snow?

[PaulGinAZ]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

Does anyone have the latest generation Jetta or Golf? My mother needs a new car and since I'm loving my VW so much she wants to check those 2 cars out but the big question is how are they in the snow?

I have a Golf but alas I have to drive to snow.... well alas for your purposes at least.

[NSpooner]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

Does anyone have the latest generation Jetta or Golf? My mother needs a new car and since I'm loving my VW so much she wants to check those 2 cars out but the big question is how are they in the snow?

In my 06 GTI it was great in the snow with all seasons and I had 18's on it. The stability control worked excellent too.

[PoundSand]

Originally Posted by 1LIFE2LIVE

Curious if anyone has done the calculations or if there is a source to determine at what point you break even and start getting into the money vs. a gas vehicle?

Locally, unleaded gas is at $ 3.17/gallon and diesel @ $3.99/gallon. I like diesels, just when crunching the numbers it doesn't seem to make economic sense to pay the premium to purchase the diesel along with the added cost of fuel.

that's easy enough for the fuel itself. at those prices, diesel is 25.8% more expensive than gas, so you'd need to get 25.8% better mileage to break even on fuel; so at those prices, if you're comparing a gas car that gets 30mpg, you'd need to get 37.7mpg on diesel. make sure you're comparing apples - apples w/ regards to gas prices (i.e. if the gas car you're looking at requires premium, take that into account vs using prices for regular).

if you want to factor in purchase price, you'd need to realize savings from the difference in mileage, and see if it offsets the added purchase price.

[troidus]

Originally Posted by 1LIFE2LIVE

Locally, unleaded gas is at $ 3.17/gallon and diesel @ $3.99/gallon. I like diesels, just when crunching the numbers it doesn't seem to make economic sense to pay the premium to purchase the diesel along with the added cost of fuel.

The benefit of diesel extends beyond fuel economy. Torque is the big one, as is high-altitude performance from the turbo.

[jules083]

Originally Posted by troidus

The benefit of diesel extends beyond fuel economy. Torque is the big one, as is high-altitude performance from the turbo.

The torque is nice. My jetta pulls nicely at 1800 or so, and pulls hard from 2200. I don't think I've ever dropped out of fifth on the highway, including a drive through the Virginia mountains. Guys in the rockies may differ.

Longevity should be better as well, at least for the motor. There are guys on tdiclub claiming 500,000+ miles on original motors right now. I think one guy broke 700,000 if I remember right.

All typos and misspellings blamed on my phone.

[adam_c_eckhardt]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

Does anyone have the latest generation Jetta or Golf? My mother needs a new car and since I'm loving my VW so much she wants to check those 2 cars out but the big question is how are they in the snow?

My wife's Golf TDI does pretty well on slick roads, and we opted to skip the winter tires this year (too much going on, didn't want to move another set of wheels and tires, and easy enough to take my truck if the roads are bad.)

I took it out to our build site which is up a pretty steep hill and it did just fine in our last snow storm. I imagine with a good set of winter tires that it'll make things easy.

Get a price from Chris Farnham at Langhorn VW for your Mom. He's got screaming deals.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by troidus

The benefit of diesel extends beyond fuel economy. Torque is the big one, as is high-altitude performance from the turbo.

+1

[Bueller]

Originally Posted by aceluck

Hey Bueller, what exactly is it that you drive that you really enjoy?

a '13 Rubicon is the daily driver, a warmed over '08 Shelby is the 4 wheel toy. I'll forego pics so as not to upset the three very vocal people on Advrider who get their panties all in a bunch each time someone asks me to post photos

[NikonsAndVStroms]

Originally Posted by adam_c_eckhardt

My wife's Golf TDI does pretty well on slick roads, and we opted to skip the winter tires this year (too much going on, didn't want to move another set of wheels and tires, and easy enough to take my truck if the roads are bad.)

I took it out to our build site which is up a pretty steep hill and it did just fine in our last snow storm. I imagine with a good set of winter tires that it'll make things easy.

Get a price from Chris Farnham at Langhorn VW for your Mom. He's got screaming deals.

Sounds good, and thanks for the heads up. I think she'll probably get the 5 cyl which should be more than enough since she only drives 4-6k a year. Those must be some solid cars too because they weight a ton, I just looked it up and the 3 door Golf weighs only 200lbs less than my huge Passat

[adam_c_eckhardt]

Originally Posted by NikonsAndVStroms

Sounds good, and thanks for the heads up. I think she'll probably get the 5 cyl which should be more than enough since she only drives 4-6k a year. Those must be some solid cars too because they weight a ton, I just looked it up and the 3 door Golf weighs only 200lbs less than my huge Passat

My wife's Aunt has a 5 cyl Golf and is really happy with hers. I don't know if Chris deals in the gas stuff at all- he's more of a TDI salesman.

[jdiaz]

Originally Posted by adam_c_eckhardt

My wife's Aunt has a 5 cyl Golf and is really happy with hers. I don't know if Chris deals in the gas stuff at all- he's more of a TDI salesman.

Its January in Philly. Everyone has to sell everything at the dealership.

[Ursa Major]

Originally Posted by adam_c_eckhardt

My wife's Aunt has a 5 cyl Golf and is really happy with hers. I don't know if Chris deals in the gas stuff at all- he's more of a TDI salesman.

I referred a friend looking for an EOS for his wife a few years ago, Chris took care of him. He'll sell anything, he's just developed a niche in the TDI world.

[TX Spike]

Originally Posted by brewer90

HPFP failure. Here is a 327 page thread on the issue http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=308323

Thats pretty interesting that there are 327 pages of posts on the HPFP, especially considering that when mine went out I asked my vw service rep if they ever saw it before, he said no, and then told me I was lucky it was under warranty cause it was a $5,700 repair