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Old 01-09-2013, 09:36 PM   #2371
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Walter, I'm reading your ride report from 1994 right now (that someone posted a link to earlier)... It is absolutely amazing. I have a feeling I will be missing quite a bit of sleep tonight attempting to finish it...

Anyhow, how did you guys communicate with the locals in China. Did you guys speak any Chinese? Or did most of them speak English?

Sorry that it is off topic, but I can't respond to the Tokyo to London website as easily!
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:28 PM   #2372
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Secondly: Bolts loosen on all bikes, even brand new Dakar bikes, specifically built to survive the Dakar ... as a result of severe vibrations at high speed. High speed riding on rocky terrain in particular can eventually shake any bolts loose. Ask any KTM LC4 owner owner how much locktite they need to use.
Ever tried using Nord-lock washers in bolt locking ? they are used in industry alot, whenever there is vibration.

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Old 01-09-2013, 10:32 PM   #2373
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Walter, I'm reading your ride report from 1994 right now (that someone posted a link to earlier)... It is absolutely amazing. I have a feeling I will be missing quite a bit of sleep tonight attempting to finish it...

Anyhow, how did you guys communicate with the locals in China. Did you guys speak any Chinese? Or did most of them speak English?

Sorry that it is off topic, but I can't respond to the Tokyo to London website as easily!
Well we took a few Chinese lessons before we went - so could count from one to ten ... which in chinese means you can do any numbers. The counting system is incredibly simple and logical. Same with the grammar ... very very simple and logical. It makes other languages look ridiculously unnecessarily complicated and stupid. .... that is until you get to the writing side of it and the tonal nature of pronunciation - then the chinese side becomes the ridiculously unnecessarily complicated side. They seem to recognise this tho and teach their written language to their children via the latin alphabet (pinyin chinese).

James was fluent in Japanese, so he could basically read Chinese and understand it. (The characters have the same meaning in both languages even tho the words are totally different and unrelated). So he could read road signs ... "three mountain city" is left at the junction ... for example. He could read the basics on the menus. What dishes were pork, chicken, rice, etc. Again the characters were the same.

We were both quite surprised how quickly we learned it ... after 6 weeks in China, we were able to get just about anything we wanted easily and have conversations with locals. If you just ignore the complexity of the written language and just worry about speaking and listening, its not difficult at all.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:23 PM   #2374
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Ever tried using Nord-lock washers in bolt locking ? they are used in industry alot, whenever there is vibration.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgwmuZuJ02I

That is some clever engineering which deserves to be trialled, especially if the cost is reasonable.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:33 PM   #2375
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That is some clever engineering which deserves to be trialled, especially if the cost is reasonable.
Quite reasonable i guess, M8 -> M10 sizes are around 1,5€ -> 2€ / pcs. here in finland.

Sorry for offtopic!
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:58 AM   #2376
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Right on Walter any disscusion about this bikes abilities not being up to the task is just bullshit. One suggestion on your groups next trip is for you to install a top box that can hold some ice to keep Rod and Terry's martni ingrediants chilled for their truck rides when they come up!
Ouch ...that hurts.
But while you're at it don't forget the smoked salmon.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:17 AM   #2377
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And I'm working on a lockable tool tube.
Thanks again guys and gal for this wonderful RR.

Prutser, could you please give me the translation (Dutch) for the aforementioned part/tool? Thanks!
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:22 AM   #2378
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Is called the same in Dutch asfaik. Translation would be something like "gereedschap bus"

This f.i.:

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Old 01-10-2013, 01:31 AM   #2379
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Ouch ...that hurts.
But while you're at it don't forget the smoked salmon.
Caviar with blinis to accompany your rosepetal martini sir?



I think Terry is asking you here ... "Rod, pass me my picnic hamper with the Foie Gras would you mate. This Adventure Riding really makes a man hungry"
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Is called the same in Dutch asfaik. Translation would be something like "gereedschap bus"


Stupid me... Should have translated word by word. Thanks!
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I think Terry is asking you here ... "Rod, pass me my picnic hamper with the Foie Gras would you mate. This Adventure Riding really makes a man hungry"
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:44 AM   #2382
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:08 AM   #2383
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Voices??

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It wuz the voices made me do it.
More specifically Terry's voice..".OOOH! Come on Wod...we've got a lift acwoth the waging towwent with the nithe foweign man and I won't need to get my thiny Klimy thuit wet,... Bath and Winda can wun alongside.....come on...thing along! Wow, Wow, wow the boat, gently down the stweam"

I was against it from the start of course

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Extreme it is... on both ends of the spectrum...
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