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Old 01-08-2013, 09:58 PM   #31
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Harleys and BMWs have their issues. BMWs used to be high quality but no more. Harley's quality has improved considerably, but is still not perfect. They did make some major improvements, but took a step back with that chain driven twin cam set up (what advantage does 2 cams have over 1 in a cruiser motor?) Except for Sportsters, Harleys still have, and hopefully always will have, a separate engine and transmission. It's a big part of what makes them Harleys. It also makes it a lot easier to fix engine or transmission problems, because you don't have to tear them both apart. And it has been proven to work for over 100 years.

As for comfort, that is a whole nother can of worms. I would also find a Harley more comfortable, BMW just can't seem to get rid of those damn low bars and rearset pegs. Except for the R1200C. Looks are subjective, I won't even comment on it. I buy bikes to ride not look at. And the R1200C was the only comfortable bike BMW ever made.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:26 AM   #32
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:33 AM   #33
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Harleys and BMWs have their issues. BMWs used to be high quality but no more. Harley's quality has improved considerably, but is still not perfect. They did make some major improvements, but took a step back with that chain driven twin cam set up (what advantage does 2 cams have over 1 in a cruiser motor?) Except for Sportsters, Harleys still have, and hopefully always will have, a separate engine and transmission. It's a big part of what makes them Harleys. It also makes it a lot easier to fix engine or transmission problems, because you don't have to tear them both apart. And it has been proven to work for over 100 years.

As for comfort, that is a whole nother can of worms. I would also find a Harley more comfortable, BMW just can't seem to get rid of those damn low bars and rearset pegs. Except for the R1200C. Looks are subjective, I won't even comment on it. I buy bikes to ride not look at. And the R1200C was the only comfortable bike BMW ever made.
I used to do all my own work on my sportsters and honestly did not find pulling the tranny or whatever to be that big a deal. Easy bike to work on. Although they were pretty bullet-proof. And the riding positions you describe? Exactly why I find the BMW generally MORE comfortable than the HD. Look, we all fit things differently. As far as reliability, I personally haven't had a single serious issue with either make; but my luck's bound to change.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:49 AM   #34
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:37 AM   #35
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Best Jo momma thread yet and I only own half a Harley.

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Old 01-09-2013, 06:14 PM   #36
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How bout 1/2 a BMW.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:57 PM   #37
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:09 PM   #38
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Harleys and BMWs have their issues. BMWs used to be high quality but no more. Harley's quality has improved considerably, but is still not perfect. They did make some major improvements, but took a step back with that chain driven twin cam set up (what advantage does 2 cams have over 1 in a cruiser motor?) Except for Sportsters, Harleys still have, and hopefully always will have, a separate engine and transmission. It's a big part of what makes them Harleys. It also makes it a lot easier to fix engine or transmission problems, because you don't have to tear them both apart. And it has been proven to work for over 100 years.

As for comfort, that is a whole nother can of worms. I would also find a Harley more comfortable, BMW just can't seem to get rid of those damn low bars and rearset pegs. Except for the R1200C. Looks are subjective, I won't even comment on it. I buy bikes to ride not look at. And the R1200C was the only comfortable bike BMW ever made.
You don't even know a standard from a feet forward bike there Jerry so you commenting on comfort is laughable. The R1200C with its mid controls is the most uncomfortable BMW I have ever ridden (I've owned 6- 2 of them "C's)
The only saving grace of the C's was the engine guard to throw your legs up on and the fact that some of them had the flip-up lumbar support.

An upright (standard) riding position is better for long days in the saddle for most people... Unless they have knee issues, then a feet forward with lumbar support is generally preferred.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:01 AM   #39
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Any of the Harley Touring bikes would be more comfortable and have hell of a lot more character than some bland BMW...
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:39 AM   #40
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Any of the Harley Touring bikes would be more comfortable and have hell of a lot more character than some bland BMW...
This is my kind of bland, not bad for comfort either:


This was my kind of bland, not quite as comfortable:


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Old 01-10-2013, 05:53 AM   #41
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This is my kind of bland, not bad for comfort either:


This was my kind of bland, not quite as comfortable:


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Yet according to your sig you own neither.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:18 AM   #42
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I don't own either one of those (either), but I'd love to.
They're Blandtacular!

I mean, great!
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:37 AM   #43
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Yet according to your sig you own neither.
He doesn't need a bike like that, West Central MN has no curves and very few hills
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:37 AM   #44
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Any of the Harley Touring bikes would be more comfortable and have hell of a lot more character than some bland BMW...
Comfortable is relative.

Bland my ass.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:51 AM   #45
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Any of the Harley Touring bikes would be more comfortable and have hell of a lot more character than some bland BMW...
Ridden a K1200R/K1300R lately? I like HDs but to me -- along with Goldwings -- they are the ultimate bland-o-matics. The Goldwing feels like an appliance; the HD like an appliance... that's busted.
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