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Old 09-15-2012, 04:25 PM   #376
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I'm with eakins on the Husky.
IMO if Yam would have done it a few years ago, but I think Husky is going to steal the show now. Little too late.....
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:34 PM   #377
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Photos like this just kill me

ohhhh Yamaha you are so wrong !!!!

the little Ten would be great in the US.

(from the "Yamaha XT 660 Z Tenere" FB page)

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Old 09-29-2012, 05:42 PM   #378
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:29 AM   #379
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I vote for the 660! why not bring it here.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:33 PM   #380
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I'm with eakins on the Husky.
IMO if Yam would have done it a few years ago, but I think Husky is going to steal the show now. Little too late.....
fast forward with that...all bets are off again as the fate of the TR650 is up in the air with new ownership. sales are good for the bike but a big chunk of guys are scared to buy an orphan bike. the KTM sale killed off the momentum. i'm sure KTM has future 650 plans for Husky however but it might not be what we see today. i'd say the sale set the updated 650 market backwards.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:34 PM   #381
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Not to piss on your parade but the XT660R is the one you want.

I've ridden both the XT660R and the Tenere and I vastly prefer the XT660R.

In my opinion the Tenere is too heavy and underpowered for it's size, and that wind screen gives you horrible turbulence.

With the XT660R you get lower weight, lower seat height, better fuel-economy, more horsepower, lower price and no wind screen to cause turbulence - my choice!

It's a very nice extremely forgiving basic motorcycle that almost anyone can get on and "just ride". It's a bit on the heavy side for off-road but for gravel road touring and light off-road use it's great.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:54 AM   #382
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Crock of shit in that last post !!!
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:54 AM   #383
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Crock of shit in that last post !!!
Which part?

Maybe the better fuel economy and more power from the 660R would be the only possible bit, the rest is pretty spot on.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:18 AM   #384
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The only real advantages the XT660Z has over the XT660R are ground clearance and fuel capacity. Ground clearance is easily solved with a Metal Mule full system, which is not very expensive, and you end up with more ground clearance than the XT660Z and the weight advantage of the XT660R is increased, from 30 to 35kg... Fuel capacity is solved by aftermarket tanks, that gets expensive, but in the end, the XT660R ends up being 35kg lighter and with a bit more ground clearance.

Power is the same, but the XT660R/X feel faster as they are significantly lighter. Fuel economy is a wash.
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Which part?

Maybe the better fuel economy and more power from the 660R would be the only possible bit, the rest is pretty spot on.
Yeah - For some reason I thought that the Tenere had 43bhp and not 48, which is the same as the XT660R. My bad!

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The only real advantages the XT660Z has over the XT660R are ground clearance and fuel capacity. Ground clearance is easily solved with a Metal Mule full system, which is not very expensive, and you end up with more ground clearance than the XT660Z and the weight advantage of the XT660R is increased, from 30 to 35kg... Fuel capacity is solved by aftermarket tanks, that gets expensive, but in the end, the XT660R ends up being 35kg lighter and with a bit more ground clearance.

Power is the same, but the XT660R/X feel faster as they are significantly lighter. Fuel economy is a wash.
Pretty much! Here's a nice farkled XT660R! Gives you and idea of what can be done - very nice gravel road tourer!

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Old 03-12-2013, 12:19 AM   #386
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My old XTr

My new XTZ

Is it heavier.. well yes... noticably so...well no not really
Is it better out the box than the R... well yes it is IMO
Does it cost a shed load to get an R good enough to go where the Ten can go straight out the box... well yes it does
Which one is more powerful... duh they are both the same, but the Z feels happier at higher speeds for a prolonged period wierdly. The R had worse fueling making it snatchy at low speed
The R was better for comfort, I found it very comfy, but a seat can be sorted for very cheap
Does the USA get either ???
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:36 AM   #387
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Personally I don't like the looks of the XT660Z at all. The XT660R looks good though. I wouldn't pay $10k for either one. I do think Yamaha needs a 650 class bike. The other three Japanese brands all do. I asked the Yamaha rep that at the IMS in NYC and he didn't have an answer. Since the G650GS Sertao doesnt excite me like I thought it would and the TR650 Terra might end up an orphan the only middle weight dual sport I'd buy right now is a 690 Enduro R.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:27 AM   #388
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If they bring it I will buy.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:26 AM   #389
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I'll buy one. Actually I'll buy two...
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:58 AM   #390
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My old XTr
Is it heavier.. well yes... noticably so...well no not really
Is it better out the box than the R... well yes it is IMO
Does it cost a shed load to get an R good enough to go where the Ten can go straight out the box... well yes it does
Which one is more powerful... duh they are both the same, but the Z feels happier at higher speeds for a prolonged period wierdly. The R had worse fueling making it snatchy at low speed
The R was better for comfort, I found it very comfy, but a seat can be sorted for very cheap
Does the USA get either ???
LOL!

The only think "keeping" an XT660R from going wherever a Tenere can go are 50mm of ground clearance.

I'll use logic, you can continue with your delusions. XT660R OTR price in UK, £6630.00, XT660Z OTR price in UK, £7130 (Prices from Yamaha UK Finance)

The XT660R is £500 less.

Metal mule high 2 into 1 full system for XT660R: £363.56

After adding the Metal Mule full system the XT660R is still £136.44 less than the XT660Z, and now it has the ground clearance to go wherever the XT660Z goes. ("it cost a shed load to get an R good enough to go where the Ten can go straight out the box" it's still cheaper than a Tenere, logic owns you)

According to Yamaha Europe, a XT660R with a full tank is 181kg, a Tenere is 208.5kg...

The metal mule exhaust is 8.5kg lighter, so the XT660R ends up being 172.5, or, 36kg ligher than the Tenere...

But I'll be fair, the Tenere is carrying an extra 8 liters of petrol, 5.6kg, that means it's 31.4kg heavier than a XT660R when both carry the same amount of fuel.


At this point we have:

XT660R - Light but short on fuel.
XT660Z - Heavy but lots of fuel on board.

£870 + shipping gets you an OTR 26 liter tank for the XT660R, OR, £230 + shipping for a 22.5 liter Gillimoto tank.


Thing is, no matter how much money you throw at the Tenere, you won't get it close to the weight of the XT660R. For example, add a £275.00 MTC slip on to the Tenere and you're already past the price of the XT660R + Metal Mule full system and GiliMoto tank, yet the 5kg savings still keep the Tenere a hefty 26.4kg over the XT660R. (Still can't figure out how in your mind you think "it cost a shed" when it in facts ends up being less money).

Sorry, but the XT660Z was made just for looks. It's a thumper and just 6kg lighter than a V-Strom 650

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