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Old 01-13-2013, 10:34 AM   #91
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So, there is no replacement for the chromehead.
BMW doesn't care and doesn't want to care about the largest segment of American motorcycle sales.

Its a shame..


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Old 01-13-2013, 06:28 PM   #92
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They may turn out to become highly collectable in the future, like the Edsel.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:49 PM   #93
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Based on my experience with newer bikes starting with the first oilheads in the early '90's, they're probably average motorcycles in terms of build quality and reliability, though above average in cost to maintain. Just my $.02.

My '98 R1100GS had over 260,000 kms on her when I sold her.

That's over 160,000 miles.

New owner is still racking up the kms/miles.

Not your average motorcycle.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:28 PM   #94
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I AM a cruiser guy, and the R1200C is the only modern BMW I ever liked. Probably because it was different. If you are going to ride a Harley, then get a Harley, not a copy of one. I never got the 1200C because I could not afford it. I actually don't know what happened to it. I had a subscription to Motorcycle Cruiser for years, it's like one day it was doing fine, the next it was gone. Art Friedman, Jamie Elvidge and crew were always putting it down, but it was very obvious that magazine was heavily biased toward Japanese Harley clones. I heard something about BMW not being able to compete in the cruiser market, but I also kept hearing how well the 1200C was selling. I still couldn't afford one, but I wish BMW would bring it back anyway. Just because it doesn't look or sound like a Harley doesn't mean it is not a great bike.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:36 PM   #95
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Yep.

The C helped BMW realize they don't know shit about the American market and don't want to know anything about it.
They want to service the same customers in whatever location on earth they live, not expand to suit people who want a manufacturer to respond to them.
Harley does the same thing. They don't do market research. They build cruisers, and a couple of nice touring bikes, and that's it. They dropped Buell for some reason, maybe the same reason BMW dropped the R1200C. It just wasn't them. But apparently both Harley and BMW can do just fine building and selling only what THEY want.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:30 PM   #96
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Just because it doesn't look or sound like a Harley doesn't mean it is not a great bike.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:44 PM   #97
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I've always liked the R1200C. It'll be a must have collectors bike in 10-15 years time.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:52 PM   #98
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Loved mine so much... bought a 2nd one... even owned a CLC for a while. Was my wife's favorite for 2-up riding.
Ran my saddle sore 1000 in one.

Great bike... mostly misunderstood...
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:28 PM   #99
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...horsepower, handling and sporting abilities....

Cruisers are exactly none of those.
There are a few.

Diavel, Rocket, Vrod, Mean Streak, Warrior
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:29 PM   #100
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Ummm, just sayin, that 1200c can be had for cheaper than ANY BMW,any age... One of the fugliest abortions that the motorrad came up with (JMO, of course) You know what they say about opinions....
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:56 PM   #101
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The real reason...

They were bad incarnate. They would sneak out after dark, party all night and come home with only half their cloths. Total pain to deal with their antics.

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Old 01-21-2013, 10:26 PM   #102
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They were ugly...they didn't look like a prototypical cruiser and thats a mistake for any manufacturer to make. BMW was trying to create a new type of cruiser and it was half baked.

Some people liked them and thats OK to each his own...but ugly usually does not sell, for very log anyway.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:53 AM   #103
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Some people liked them and thats OK to each his own...but ugly usually does not sell, for very log anyway.

^^^ The reason that Victory has failed to increase it's market share by any significant number.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:12 AM   #104
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I would not buy a chrome head because the fat front tire. I like a little more performance. I have a /6 which I love. close to a cruiser as I will get. I rode an RT for 3 years and love it. This time I wanted closer to my airhead. Less weight, lower CG.

SO I b ought this. Its not a C but it IS exactly what I wanted. Less than 500 lbs. wet, over 100 hp.



I tell the v twin guys its a 180* Vee, They look puzzled for a minute.

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Old 01-26-2013, 07:41 AM   #105
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AND for what it's worth, BMW does offer chrome valve covers for this cam head motor.... Haven't seen a set on a newer bike yet but curious to see it.

You know it's the middle of winter when a 5 year old thread is getting dug up.

My take on why BMW didn't keep making the R1200C? ***while the US market is made up of roughly 50% cruisers, it's only about 12-15% percent of BMW Motorrad's market share which makes the US a tertiary market to them. Shocked? Don't be. Why would you make a model just for us when the rest of the global market wants something else. You have to make what sells. It's the same reason they won't bother importing the K1300R, they didn't sell enough of the K1200R from 06-08 to make it worth importing. Also keep in mind the US market holds a much thinner margin for BMW Motorrad...they trim the prices for us so they can better compete against the more strongly rooted Japanese brands that have more product and have been here longer. My first ride as a 14 year old kid was on a Honda just for example.

That being said, I see R1200C's fetching 2 and 3 times more than NADA values already. With the popularity of the Diavel for Ducati now, I wouldn't be surprised to see BMW bring something out along those lines now, the muscle cruiser may become a stronger play now than what it used to be. I hope so.


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