Alpina tubeless 19/17 combo

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Me, Myself, and I

Now I know I'm a dumbass and all(this has been verified many times), but do they have stock size tubeless rims for the 990? I'd be very interested in that. Also what makes the stock size bad for offroad?

Not necessarily bad but...
You have a better selection of proper offroad tires to select from, that don't fit the wide rim as well.
Less prone to dings.
Skinnier rims make the bike more flickable offroad.

[Cuse]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Not necessarily bad but...
You have a better selection of proper offroad tires to select from, that don't fit the wide rim as well.
Less prone to dings.
Skinnier rims make the bike more flickable offroad.

Thanks. I am enamored by the idea of tubeless tires. I've never changed a tube other than a bicycle and am just thinking plugging a flat out in the middle of nowhere would be so much simpler.

[sakurama]

If you're going to offer 17/19 you should consider offering the rear in a wider size of 5-5.5" which is the size of the new 1190 and the water cooled BMW so those sizes will become much more popular. 4.25 is a 150/70-17 which is narrow for the bike and street rubber. I run 160-170 and am waiting for a good 180 option.

Gregor

[NKL]

Originally Posted by sakurama

If you're going to offer 17/19 you should consider offering the rear in a wider size of 5-5.5" which is the size of the new 1190 and the water cooled BMW so those sizes will become much more popular. 4.25 is a 150/70-17 which is narrow for the bike and street rubber. I run 160-170 and am waiting for a good 180 option.

Gregor

Why? A 150 rear tyre is plenty for 100hp.

[mousitsas]

Originally Posted by NKL

Why? A 150 rear tyre is plenty for 100hp.

Its a matter of tyre geometry (and lack of tyres than can handle power) rather than width.
150/70 is not that good of a street tyre profile.
Perfect street rim size for our bikes is 5"
Having said that, the stock scorpion on the stock 4.25 rim is just huge, larger than the 150 indicated. It is as wide (if not wider) than an 150/70 anakee2 on a 5" rim.

[sakurama]

Originally Posted by NKL

Why? A 150 rear tyre is plenty for 100hp.

It's more about selection of rubber and profile. I think 160 is about ideal for the bike and there are plenty of good street options available. Moreover with both the GS and the new 1190 using these sizes there will be far more choices in the future.

Gregor

[Peanuts]

I run a 110/80 x 19 front and 150/70 x 17 rear on my 990. Michelin Anakee 2 tyres.
The bike turns in well and grips well. No dramas at all on winding mountain roads or motorways.

In my experience of modifying MX bikes into supermotos a fat tyre can affect turn in and stability.

With the 17/19 combo I just fitted them and rode it. I can take my hands off the bars at any speed and it will slow down all the way to walking pace without shaking it's head.

[NKL]

There will still be far more bikes running 150/17 rear tyres than the larger size to be found on the new BM and Adventure, and all the more road based tyres available now can handle the 100hp easily, don't get caught up in the fatter tyre is best trend that seems to be going about, it's more style than function.

[PowerCell]

Originally Posted by alpina-uk

The sts kit, which is everything except the hubs will be around £670 + delivery

Can you give us a shipping cost to Southern California for the STS kits?

[alpina-uk]

you need to speak to JC for US orders bud

We cover the rest of the world

[PowerCell]

Originally Posted by alpina-uk

you need to speak to JC for US orders bud

We cover the rest of the world

Yeah, I spoke with JC yesterday. He's very helpful, but was quoted a shipping price from the factory that was a deal-killer. Not sure why it was so high, so I wanted to see if you had the same numbers. From his description it sounds like he's being quoted dimensional weight, which shouldn't be the case...

Either way, I think this thread is ready for the Vendors section.



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[Sporting Wood]

Originally Posted by PowerCell

Yeah, I spoke with JC yesterday. He's very helpful, but was quoted a shipping price from the factory that was a deal-killer. Not sure why it was so high, so I wanted to see if you had the same numbers. From his description it sounds like he's being quoted dimensional weight, which shouldn't be the case...

Either way, I think this thread is ready for the Vendors section.



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Maybe they're not taking off the VAT? $1100 for rims, spokes and nipples is about double what standard rims and stainless Buchanan spoke kit would sell for here in the USA.

[PowerCell]

Originally Posted by Sporting Wood

Maybe they're not taking off the VAT? $1100 for rims, spokes and nipples is about double what standard rims and stainless Buchanan spoke kit would sell for here in the USA.

I've been setup as a dealer for Alpina here in Cali, and the price is fine. But shipping seems to be excessive... not sure why. But it's killing the sellability of the product. Unfortunately JC doesn't seem to stock much product, so shipping becomes a necessary evil.



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[alpina-uk]

Heres the first pic in the world of the prototype Front wheel



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[jcma2ra]

USA Full Retail at todays exchange is around $1850 Shipped for the New ADV wheels discussed here.
The 2.15x21/4.25x18 is $1690 Shipped

Comparing pricing to our tubeless wheels to conventional tube type laced wheels is mute.

It is hard to stock all color variable and sizes so we order in as order come in. This method has worked for us for 6 years. It is worth the wait for sure

Nevertheless we have been selling a fair amount of these wheels directly to users as well.
Kits are popular but to get them laced can be difficult as the Alpina method is a little more critical and proper material and tools are needed.

Buchannans is familiar with alpina's and can lace our kits to existing hubs.
The cost is a little more then conventional wheels as it is a little more time consuming. Call Robert at Buchannans for Alpina Lacing quotes.
KTMtwins may have a Wheel lacer too

We do have other dealers that we work with
Ron at KTMtwins.com in the San Francisco
Jeff at Toxicmotoracing.com in Utah
and
David at FastBikeIndustries.com in NC
and last but not least
Mitch Hansen at hmcracing.com in WI






JC
alpinawheelsusa.com

Originally Posted by PowerCell

I've been setup as a dealer for Alpina here in Cali, and the price is fine. But shipping seems to be excessive... not sure why. But it's killing the sellability of the product. Unfortunately JC doesn't seem to stock much product, so shipping becomes a necessary evil.



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