Who do I have to fornicate with to get this moto from Honda!

ELM0T0L0C0 · 01-18-2013, 10:18 AM

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/01/18.../?src=facebook

Tork · 01-18-2013, 10:21 AM

Iif you listen to the F5 crew , you better put a Roto Pak on it .

ELM0T0L0C0 · 01-18-2013, 10:27 AM

all I nee is 150 miles out of a gas tank after that your are just carrying to much weight in fuel for the type of riding I like to do. Not to mention your range is always determined by the lowest common denominator.

I speak from experience.

TNC · 01-18-2013, 10:31 AM

I doubt fornication will get you anywhere. However, be able to ride like Curt Caselli or some other guys I'm watching every night on the NBC sports channel might get you a seat on one.

Tork · 01-18-2013, 10:34 AM

The debate in the big dakar thread is that the Honda does not have
enough fuel capacity .

Foot dragger · 01-18-2013, 01:28 PM

Honda builds cars and generic bikes,not likely to be selling Rally Replicas anytime soon.

Maybe paint up one of their scooter framed NC700X models to look like a rally bike.

High Country Herb · 01-18-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tork

The debate in the big dakar thread is that the Honda does not have
enough fuel capacity .

It looks like it only has 3 fuel tanks, so I can see how they would need more.

I need one like that, but can you build mine around the TRX 700 ATV motor?

xrcris · 01-18-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot dragger

Maybe paint up one of their scooter framed NC700X models to look like a rally bike.

Tartin' up the ol' XR-L with that rally fairing would do me just fine though.....

larryboy · 01-18-2013, 02:57 PM

Nice to see a proper front fender on a rally bike.

kubiak · 01-18-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ELM0T0L0C0

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/01/18.../?src=facebook

i need one of those

tHEtREV · 01-18-2013, 10:06 PM

To be honest, I think you would be better of with a CRF with one of the other kits on it (Mecasytems or HT), a WR kitted with a J-vo kit or even a KTM450r.

What rallye did you want it for?

Adv Grifter · 01-18-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tHEtREV

To be honest, I think you would be better of with a CRF with one of the other kits on it (Mecasytems or HT), a WR kitted with a J-vo kit or even a KTM450r.

What rallye did you want it for?

Exactly. What's the point? ... unless you have the speed and skill to make it work the way it's designed to work. Why bother. Better off staying with your DR650 if you like to do bike miles on the cheap. That's what I do. I used to race ... but can no longer do that. I still have fun ... and my bike NEVER breaks down.

It's going to take Honda a few years and lots of rallies worldwide to catch up to KTM in this sort of competition. But they can do it if the money is there ... and if the big boys at Honda stay with it.

Once Yamaha and Honda get up to speed it might not be so good for KTM and BMW(Husky). BMW can spend their way to success ... but KTM? now in the hands of Bajai, cannot for do this for long. But Honda won't crush them ... they need them to be in the market.

I would not be surprised to see Honda produce a "wanna be" road legal repli-racer copy of the rally racer.

I'm sure this first racer is primitive and flawed .... and I doubt Honda put everything they have into it. They never want to come on too strong. They need the competition to survive ... only to show the world how superior they are ... when they really want to be superior.

skibikemototour · 01-19-2013, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

Exactly. What's the point? ... unless you have the speed and skill to make it work the way it's designed to work. Why bother. Better off staying with your DR650 if you like to do bike miles on the cheap. That's what I do. I used to race ... but can no longer do that. I still have fun ... and my bike NEVER breaks down.

It's going to take Honda a few years and lots of rallies worldwide to catch up to KTM in this sort of competition. But they can do it if the money is there ... and if the big boys at Honda stay with it.

Once Yamaha and Honda get up to speed it might not be so good for KTM and BMW(Husky). BMW can spend their way to success ... but KTM? now in the hands of Bajai, cannot for do this for long. But Honda won't crush them ... they need them to be in the market.

I would not be surprised to see Honda produce a "wanna be" road legal repli-racer copy of the rally racer.

I'm sure this first racer is primitive and flawed .... and I doubt Honda put everything they have into it. They never want to come on too strong. They need the competition to survive ... only to show the world how superior they are ... when they really want to be superior.

The wanna-be 6-speed with a fairing and large fuel capacity would be of interest to many. This Honda Dakar effort hits at that possibility.

Funny the derisive questioning of someone's interest. WTF does anyone know about other's posting, and do the uppity posters actually hold such a lofty position to question? Funny site, if not some KTM-envy blowhard then some other blowhard lecturing someone...guys all over this site use race bikes for ADV travel, so what, not the right brand...?

Honda has already done it, competitors in Dakar in the top positions, right from the start. When Honda gets the riders in line, domination may follow.

Off the grid · 01-19-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by skibikemototour

Hey, I'm famous!

I've always said that Honda should make an Adventure bike out of the XRR engine, which is the best engine that Honda ever produced. A 6-speed tranny, E-start and modern suspension and brakes would be a huge start.

jasonmt · 01-19-2013, 11:04 AM

"FHF": Former Honda Faithful; Those of us that realize(d) that Honda's glory days are well past them and that the company is ran by Bean Counters, Lawyers and "Brand Managers" and have moved on to other marques and no longer have garages, sheds or shops full of Red.

In my case the Honda quad has been replaced with a Can-Am, my Honda dirt bike has been replaced with a KTM and then a Husqvarna, SWMBO Honda dirt bike has been replaced with a TM and my beloved VFR 800 was replaced with a Ninja 1000. The little, little bastards XR 100 is getting replaced with a Yamaha TTR 230 and my Honda inverter genset has been replaced by a Yamaha.

In all the cases when looking at the replacement models for the Hondas replacing a Honda with another Honda was going to leave us with a vehicle that was any / some of or all of the following:

Overpriced (compared to similar models from other manufacturers), antiquated (in the case of their quads and dirt bikes still running carbs), not available in Honda's lineup (TM EN144) or that had really strayed from their previous models (VFR 800 to VFR 1200).

The fit and finish on their newer stuff just does not seem to be near what it was and to qualify this statement in the past two years I have bought a new quad, two new dirt bikes, a 650 class dual sport, a Ninja 1000 and a 3kw inverter genset.

01-18-2013, 10:18 AM	#1
ELM0T0L0C0 ^OP Less Talk More Throttle Joined: Jun 2008 Location: P-Town, Portland OR Oddometer: 180	Who do I have to fornicate with to get this moto from Honda! http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/01/18.../?src=facebook __________________ This work stuff is getting in the way of my riding stuff. My Oregon to Costa Rica Thread http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523879 2006 TE610, 2005 DR650, 2006 CRF450X, 2003 SV1000, 1977 XS650s

01-18-2013, 10:27 AM	#3
ELM0T0L0C0 ^OP Less Talk More Throttle Joined: Jun 2008 Location: P-Town, Portland OR Oddometer: 180	all I nee is 150 miles out of a gas tank after that your are just carrying to much weight in fuel for the type of riding I like to do. Not to mention your range is always determined by the lowest common denominator. I speak from experience. __________________ This work stuff is getting in the way of my riding stuff. My Oregon to Costa Rica Thread http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523879 2006 TE610, 2005 DR650, 2006 CRF450X, 2003 SV1000, 1977 XS650s

01-18-2013, 01:28 PM	#6
Foot dragger beat up ex flat tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Location: chico,just below rag dump(nor-cal) Oddometer: 6,766	Honda builds cars and generic bikes,not likely to be selling Rally Replicas anytime soon. Maybe paint up one of their scooter framed NC700X models to look like a rally bike. __________________ 2003 DR 650.(1976 Montesa 250 Enduro-nice!) - - 1990 MASI TEAM-3V.- 1976 Motobecane, Super-Mirage.- Kona, HumuHumuNukuNukuApua'a. Single Speed ThRaShEr BiKe. 1968 360 Greeves challenger MXer. 1999 Triumph Trophy 1200. 2011 KTM530 EXC. 2012 KONA Hei Hei Deluxe (ongoing bike issues) -2009 KTM 200XC-W.

01-18-2013, 10:06 PM	#11
tHEtREV tEAM iDIOT Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Middle Park, Brisbane, Australia Oddometer: 5,516	To be honest, I think you would be better of with a CRF with one of the other kits on it (Mecasytems or HT), a WR kitted with a J-vo kit or even a KTM450r. What rallye did you want it for? __________________ tEAM iDIOT... tHE oRIGINAL. Hard Core Dirt Touring.

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01-18-2013, 10:21 AM	#2
Tork Captain Oblivious Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Duvall, WA. Oddometer: 2,924	Iif you listen to the F5 crew , you better put a Roto Pak on it .

01-18-2013, 10:31 AM	#4
TNC Candyass Camper Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Tejas Oddometer: 3,333	I doubt fornication will get you anywhere. However, be able to ride like Curt Caselli or some other guys I'm watching every night on the NBC sports channel might get you a seat on one.

01-18-2013, 10:34 AM	#5
Tork Captain Oblivious Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Duvall, WA. Oddometer: 2,924	The debate in the big dakar thread is that the Honda does not have enough fuel capacity .

01-18-2013, 02:57 PM	#9
larryboy Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 12,863	Nice to see a proper front fender on a rally bike.

01-19-2013, 11:04 AM	#15
jasonmt Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2011 Location: Alberta, Canada Oddometer: 179	"FHF": Former Honda Faithful; Those of us that realize(d) that Honda's glory days are well past them and that the company is ran by Bean Counters, Lawyers and "Brand Managers" and have moved on to other marques and no longer have garages, sheds or shops full of Red. In my case the Honda quad has been replaced with a Can-Am, my Honda dirt bike has been replaced with a KTM and then a Husqvarna, SWMBO Honda dirt bike has been replaced with a TM and my beloved VFR 800 was replaced with a Ninja 1000. The little, little bastards XR 100 is getting replaced with a Yamaha TTR 230 and my Honda inverter genset has been replaced by a Yamaha. In all the cases when looking at the replacement models for the Hondas replacing a Honda with another Honda was going to leave us with a vehicle that was any / some of or all of the following: Overpriced (compared to similar models from other manufacturers), antiquated (in the case of their quads and dirt bikes still running carbs), not available in Honda's lineup (TM EN144) or that had really strayed from their previous models (VFR 800 to VFR 1200). The fit and finish on their newer stuff just does not seem to be near what it was and to qualify this statement in the past two years I have bought a new quad, two new dirt bikes, a 650 class dual sport, a Ninja 1000 and a 3kw inverter genset.