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Old 01-18-2013, 04:33 PM   #72976
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While we are talking about heads and valves and pistons, I have a question for the collective wisdom of the group. My '96 DR has 27,000 miles on it. As I was wrapping up a 3 month 8K mile ride this summer, it started smoking on start up after sitting overnight. It will smoke for a few minutes, then the smoke goes away. Blue smoke, definitely oil smoke. It only does it after sitting overnight, if I restart it after fueling or stopping for a few minutes, there's no smoke. It's not using oil that I have noticed and runs normal, not down on power at all. My thoughts are rings or valve seals. I was considering buying the high compression piston kit and new valve seals and redoing the top end anyhow before this started. Am I on the right track? Should I just leave it alone and continue to ride it and save the kit for later?


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Old 01-18-2013, 04:49 PM   #72977
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I don't let ANYONE work on ANY of my bikes........EVER
It almost impossible to find anybody that can do ANY work properly anymore.....the art of knowing you're job and having pride in it has died in america
Which is why I wont buy another KTM. Not that I didn't do the work myself, like you said and especially so on the 950, don't let anyone else touch it, it's just that I can't be bothered anymore. Been there done that already.
What the DR lacks in modern components, it makes up for in ease of ownership and that works for me.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #72978
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Just a tad over 100 pounds.
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Bathroom scale said 107.5lbs (with oil)

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But now we know a 'tad' weighs 7.5lbs

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Good link. How'd I miss that?

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Hey... I can't seem to find the threads for the Index; sure wish they were stickied at the top of Thumpers. Rob
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"BTW, I don't do style. It's a dirt bike, not some girlie dress-up thing." -

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Old 01-18-2013, 05:13 PM   #72979
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FYI, I got the fork solution kit and rear shock shaft assembly. I called a couple places in town just to ask about recharging the shock and was given the name of a guy that works out of his house. I called him to ask about recharging the shock and after talking to him about his experience, and based on what three shops in town said, I let him do the work. He charged $150 to do the front and rear (front fork solution kit and rear shock shaft assembly). It would have been $100 if I pulled the forks and rear shock and brought those to him, but I figured if I went that far I'd do the whole job, so I dropped the bike off at his house and should have the bike back Sunday.
That sounds like a fair deal to me, if the job comes back done right!
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:14 PM   #72980
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Good link. How'd I miss that?
The "info" side of the ProCycle web site is easily overlooked. Someday we'll come up with a more inviting navigation.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:18 PM   #72981
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"BTW, I don't do style. It's a dirt bike, not some girlie dress-up thing." -
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:53 PM   #72982
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That sounds like a fair deal to me, if the job comes back done right!
Considering it's been in the 20s in my garage for a week or more, I think it's more than fair just so I don't have to thaw my hands out
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:54 PM   #72983
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The "info" side of the ProCycle web site is easily overlooked. Someday we'll come up with a more inviting navigation.
And a "wish List"
I am surprised that I can get the notice my order has shipped and then I remember what else I was going to order... the next time I placed an order.

While you are upgrading, or for your site upgrade list, I can find different universal items that are listed under other bike listings but not on the DR650 list.
The only one that comes to mind now is the ProGrip Rally Grips.
I found them when I was ordering for my TW200.
I have the Rally Grips on one bike and I want to get them for my other bikes.
Next time I place an order......
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:57 PM   #72984
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There is an advantage to the balky navigation: I can still make my house payments.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:06 PM   #72985
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There is an advantage to the balky navigation: I can still make my house payments.
As a professional web programmer, I have to admit I'm rather fond of the ProCycle website. There's very little I dislike about it. I like the "everything on one page" catalog design for one.

I do wish they stocked more stuff for the KLX250S though. :)

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Old 01-18-2013, 07:57 PM   #72986
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There was a question about removing the idle fuel screw plug over on DRRIDERS.com. I posted a link to Jessepitt's photo essay on the procedure: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=71

I got this response, thanks Jesse.

Jessepitt should do a manual for us rookies. These photos are fantastic!!!!
This is the definitive answer to "THE CAP OVER THE STOCK NEEDLE ADJUSTMENT SCREW."
Even I can do this now!!!
If you don't understand this. You might seriously consider taking the bike to a shop or have someone show you.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:05 PM   #72987
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While we are talking about heads and valves and pistons, I have a question for the collective wisdom of the group. My '96 DR has 27,000 miles on it. As I was wrapping up a 3 month 8K mile ride this summer, it started smoking on start up after sitting overnight. It will smoke for a few minutes, then the smoke goes away. Blue smoke, definitely oil smoke. It only does it after sitting overnight, if I restart it after fueling or stopping for a few minutes, there's no smoke. It's not using oil that I have noticed and runs normal, not down on power at all. My thoughts are rings or valve seals. I was considering buying the high compression piston kit and new valve seals and redoing the top end anyhow before this started. Am I on the right track? Should I just leave it alone and continue to ride it and save the kit for later?


Tim
My bike does the same thing. Doesn't burn up a noticeable amount of oil and stops smoking after a minute. It's been doing it a lot less lately too. I think the only problem I have with it is being a little embarrassed when I'm warming up my bike and spitting smoke at people walking by me.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:05 PM   #72988
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Thanks, Jeff!!

Edit: What's the poor-man's version of the damping rod holder tool?

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18inch long piece of black 3/4inch I.D. pipe threaded on both ends

4inch long piece of black 3/4inch I.D. pipe threaded on both ends

1 90 degree elbow

A threaded brass cap 1 1/8inch flat to flat. Which looks like this:

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Old 01-18-2013, 08:20 PM   #72989
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The "info" side of the ProCycle web site is easily overlooked. Someday we'll come up with a more inviting navigation.
+1
I was looking for specs on the stock DR camshaft versus some of the Web grinds and Google sent me to the Pro Cycle page. Got me the info I wanted, so thanks
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:26 PM   #72990
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The only one that comes to mind now is the ProGrip Rally Grips.
I found them when I was ordering for my TW200.
I have the Rally Grips on one bike and I want to get them for my other bikes.
Next time I place an order......
There are 2 reasons why you don't see grips on the DR page. First, I like to keep the number of 'general' items that folks can usually get at any shop to a minimum - especially on the pages that are so filled out like the DR page. Second, for most folks replacing grips on the DR for the first time can become a nightmare of a job.

Some day we'll have some separate pages for our favorite general items.
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