Rookie wanna-be weldor starting to make some cool things! - Page 96

CaptTeach · 01-18-2013, 12:34 PM

Kirk

May I suggest two books, Sheet Metal Fabrication and Advanced Sheet Metal Fabrication. They can be found in the Transportation section of Barnes and Noble. In the books they make templates from a NON corrugated cardboard but you could do the same with posterboard. Once you get all the angles figured out you lay the paper version out on the aluminum, trace, cut and bend Then weld up the small places Lots of kewl projects in there from oil tanks to building a monocoque chassis for a GTP car. One book even shows a guy repairing a Ferrari 250 GTO - one of my favorite cars!!

kirkster70 · 01-18-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Looking great Kirk! I really like the lids too!

I can hardly wait to see them done!

Jim

Thanks, Jim!

It's getting there!

kirkster70 · 01-18-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDog

Beautiful work so far. As usual, us on-lookers have questions...

Why the "canyon cut" on the aft edge of the boxes? I understand that the sides are cut for lean angle and the front edges are cut for ankle protection. Is the back just replicated for symmetry or aesthetics?

Thanks!

Working from customer suppied specs.

kirkster70 · 01-18-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptTeach

Kirk

May I suggest two books, Sheet Metal Fabrication and Advanced Sheet Metal Fabrication. They can be found in the Transportation section of Barnes and Noble. In the books they make templates from a NON corrugated cardboard but you could do the same with posterboard. Once you get all the angles figured out you lay the paper version out on the aluminum, trace, cut and bend Then weld up the small places Lots of kewl projects in there from oil tanks to building a monocoque chassis for a GTP car. One book even shows a guy repairing a Ferrari 250 GTO - one of my favorite cars!!

I think I was looking at those. Ron Covell maybe? Yep. On the want list - with a whole bunch of other things.

The more tools I amass, the more I realize I don't have.

Books are definately tools. Most things I have learned in the garage have been from reading books and frequenting sites just like this one.

...and by screwing up and NOT doing it that way again.

bwalsh · 01-18-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kirkster70

...and by screwing up and NOT doing it that way again.

Ah! My preferred method!

Those Panniers look great!

I haven't had a chance to skim thru this thread yet to see if this has already been posted...What TIG welder do you have? Got any pics of it? Any chance I could stop by one day and check out your welder and pic your brain? I'm starting to look a little harder at TIG welders and am thinking of pulling the trigger sometime in the near future.

JimVonBaden · 01-18-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDog

Beautiful work so far. As usual, us on-lookers have questions...

Why the "canyon cut" on the aft edge of the boxes? I understand that the sides are cut for lean angle and the front edges are cut for ankle protection. Is the back just replicated for symmetry or aesthetics?

Exhaust is on the left, but the bags look better if they have similar tops and overall symetry, and it adds a bit of space. Lastly, the full top allows for better mounting surfaces.

Similar to these, but better looking and more functional.

Jim

NoVa Rider · 01-18-2013, 07:43 PM

Wowsers!

kirkster70 · 01-18-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bwalsh

Ah! My preferred method!

Those Panniers look great!

I haven't had a chance to skim thru this thread yet to see if this has already been posted...What TIG welder do you have? Got any pics of it? Any chance I could stop by one day and check out your welder and pic your brain? I'm starting to look a little harder at TIG welders and am thinking of pulling the trigger sometime in the near future.

Thanks, Bob!

Sure thing! You're welcome to come by and have a look. It's a Dynasty 200DX with Coolmate 1.

Cart is made of scrap and spraypaint. I did have to break down and buy the rear wheels.

I just ditched the 2" PVC tubes for filler wire today and upsized to 3" PVC. I'm starting to buy filler in 10lb boxes, and it wouldn't fit in the 2". Now it looks like a mortar launcher.

xcflyn · 01-19-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptTeach

Kirk

In the books they make templates from a NON corrugated cardboard but you could do the same with posterboard.

I have used construction paper also. Tons of little tricks to be learned over time with sequence of bends and allowance of material for bends. There is specific math to figure out a lot of this, but on a manual brake it will be a little more guess work. Looks like you are getting your head wrapped around this a lot faster then most ( a lot faster then I did thats for sure)

kirkster70 · 01-19-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xcflyn

I have used construction paper also. Tons of little tricks to be learned over time with sequence of bends and allowance of material for bends. There is specific math to figure out a lot of this, but on a manual brake it will be a little more guess work. Looks like you are getting your head wrapped around this a lot faster then most ( a lot faster then I did thats for sure)

Yeah, I'm having fun figuring it all out!

more piccys incoming....

kirkster70 · 01-19-2013, 10:10 AM

Scud missle launcher upgrade.

It's a whole lot cheaper buying 10lb filler wire qtys. online than buying 2lbs local.

Talk about markup. Same manufacturer of filler, even. I'm all for buying local, but these guys are doing it to themselves.

Also, when I first started TIG welding, I bought some 18" long filler from HTP. That's an oddball size, though I didn't realize it at the time. So, the tubes had to be larger diameter and longer to accept the 10lbs. As I run the oddball sizes out, I just upgrade my most common used filler...

10lbs of filler ^.

Lid trimmed and ends TIGged in place...

One down, one to go. After some QC, it will be off to the powdercoater!

Hmmm.... now all I need is a bike to mount them on...

defib · 01-19-2013, 11:56 AM

I don't even have a dual sport yet and want a set of those boxes!

As usual your craftsmanship amazes me. Keep it up!

Btw. I had to subscribe to this thread, so I wouldnt miss what project you might be working on.

I thought the bumper was amazing then you build a tool to help you unload another tool. Freaking amazing!

JimVonBaden · 01-19-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kirkster70

Lid trimmed and ends TIGged in place...

One down, one to go. After some QC, it will be off to the powdercoater!

Hmmm.... now all I need is a bike to mount them on...

I got that covered!

See you tomorrow!

Jim

PS Looking great!

bwalsh · 01-19-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

I got that covered!

See you tomorrow!

Jim

PS Looking great!

I stopped by and met Kirk today, talked about steel, welding, bikes, etc., and saw those boxes. They are SWEET! You're going to love them Jim.

Nice meeting you Kirk.

I'll be keeping in contact.

kirkster70 · 01-19-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by defib

I don't even have a dual sport yet and want a set of those boxes!

As usual your craftsmanship amazes me. Keep it up!

Btw. I had to subscribe to this thread, so I wouldnt miss what project you might be working on.

I thought the bumper was amazing then you build a tool to help you unload another tool. Freaking amazing!

We can zap screw a set to the side of your car!

Thank you very much!

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CaptTeach Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Grenada - MS....... not the Island!!!! Oddometer: 209	Kirk May I suggest two books, Sheet Metal Fabrication and Advanced Sheet Metal Fabrication. They can be found in the Transportation section of Barnes and Noble. In the books they make templates from a NON corrugated cardboard but you could do the same with posterboard. Once you get all the angles figured out you lay the paper version out on the aluminum, trace, cut and bend Then weld up the small places Lots of kewl projects in there from oil tanks to building a monocoque chassis for a GTP car. One book even shows a guy repairing a Ferrari 250 GTO - one of my favorite cars!! __________________ CaptTeach 96 Heritage Softail Classic 89 XT 600 71 CB 200 Cafe Racer 70 CL 100 63 Sporty XLCH

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defib Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Winslow AZ. Oddometer: 100	Wow! I don't even have a dual sport yet and want a set of those boxes! As usual your craftsmanship amazes me. Keep it up! Btw. I had to subscribe to this thread, so I wouldnt miss what project you might be working on. I thought the bumper was amazing then you build a tool to help you unload another tool. Freaking amazing! __________________ Never do anything you have to explain to a paramedic.

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kirkster70 ^OP moto junkie Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Oddometer: 1,637	Scud missle launcher upgrade. It's a whole lot cheaper buying 10lb filler wire qtys. online than buying 2lbs local. Talk about markup. Same manufacturer of filler, even. I'm all for buying local, but these guys are doing it to themselves. Also, when I first started TIG welding, I bought some 18" long filler from HTP. That's an oddball size, though I didn't realize it at the time. So, the tubes had to be larger diameter and longer to accept the 10lbs. As I run the oddball sizes out, I just upgrade my most common used filler... 10lbs of filler ^. Lid trimmed and ends TIGged in place... One down, one to go. After some QC, it will be off to the powdercoater! Hmmm.... now all I need is a bike to mount them on...