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Old 01-19-2013, 02:58 AM   #16531
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Where do we donate for Luis's F5 tee-shirt?, the man has earnt it BIG time
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:58 AM   #16532
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There aren't any real markers on the map as to distance, and both maps are different in scale
Haven't had time yesterday, but i'll try to make something up
hmmm . . . where's my cerruroid rurer?
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:59 AM   #16533
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I just saw something that said the ceremony isn't until tomorrow?

Talk about anti-climactic.

Anyone confirm?
gives them time to wash and clean up the bikes n cars n trucks for telly sponsors
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:01 AM   #16534
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VRRR1, I deleted your post on pg. 1100. The table code screwed up the page, sorry.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:04 AM   #16535
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according to DAKAR.com ( insert comment in reference to the accuracy here) registration by brand

KTM- 67
YAM- 52
HON-36
HUQ-10
SHER-4
KAW-3
BERG-3
GG-3
TM-2
JING-2
BETA-2
BMW-2
SUZ-1
BULTACO - 1

WITHDRAWLS by brand ( for what ever reason) as of stage 13

YAM- 17
KTM- 14
HON- 11
HUQ- 4
BERG-3
SHER-2
BETA-2
BMW-2
BULTACO-1
KAW-0
SUZ-0
GG-0
TM-0 (HOW I WILL NEVER KNOW)
JING-0


Again the source is DAKAR.com so if you have other data please ammend as required. This works out to 20.9% for KTM, 32.7% for YAM, 30.6% for HON and 40% for Husqvarna.

Alittle food for thought going into the end of the race...
Well yes. And if you express those numbers in terms of percentage attrition (something which is obviously a lot more significant for the well represented brands than the bikes that are only there in ones and twos), the facts carry a stark message...
Brand - No. of starters -Attrition Rate

KTM - 67 - 20.9%
YAM - 52 - 32.7%
HON - 36 - 30.6%
HUQ - 10 - 40%
SHER - 4 - 50%
KAW - 3 - 0%
BERG - 3 - 100%
GG - 3 - 0%
TM - 2 - 0%
JING - 2 - 0%
BETA - 2 - 100%
BMW - 2 - 100%
SUZ - 1 - 0%
BULTACO - 1 - 100%


So if you want to win, you ride a KTM. If you just want to finish, then you could decide to ride a Kawasaki or a Suzuki, if sample sizes of one are your bag. But you probably want a KTM. It seems incredible that KTMs are both the fastest AND the most reliable (although you'd need to drill down further to work out what it is about the KTM that means KTM riders are twice as likely to get to the finish as Husky riders, and 50% more likely to finish than either Honda or Yamaha pilots)
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:06 AM   #16536
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VRRR1, I deleted your post on pg. 1100. The table code screwed up the page, sorry.
Aww...you shoulda left it there. Most folks are just coming online, downing the first coffee of the day (which hasn't kicked in yet). Just imagine all the wtf head scratching and squinting. Gets them going faster, honest.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:08 AM   #16537
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Aww...you shoulda left it there. Most folks are just coming online, downing the first coffee of the day (which hasn't kicked in yet). Just imagine all the wtf head scratching and squinting. Gets them going faster, honest.
mmmmm coffee.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:12 AM   #16538
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Lyndon:

"Start delayed by an hour on safety grounds as the choppers cannot go up due to the fog. Team Frontrow on the start of the last day."

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Old 01-19-2013, 03:14 AM   #16539
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After a call to ASO for an hour delay so I could finish the map:


They already have started a connection of 121km, and should start special @ 8:35 local
WP1 @ 36km
WP2 @ 75km
WP3, start neutralisation and refuel@ 97km
WP4 and end neutralisation @ 285km
Finish @ 346km

Followed by 158km connection, in total 625km

Distances are a bit odd, but I can't find anything else. If someone else has other numbers please share.
Hope all of them make it without problems
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:18 AM   #16540
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hmmm . . . where's my cerruroid rurer?
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:21 AM   #16541
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Despres still has to go to work today to keep off Lopez.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:22 AM   #16542
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Despres still has to go to work today to keep off Lopez.
Does he ? Just seen a tweet from RallyRAIDio saying Lopez fitted a new engine overnight and has 15 min penalty.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:23 AM   #16543
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Despres still has to go to work today to keep off Lopez.
Lopez got a +15 minute penalty, he changed engines last night. It moves him just 90 seconds ahead of Jakes in 4th. That's gonna be the nail-biter today...
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:23 AM   #16544
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OK...all caught up....

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Old 01-19-2013, 03:24 AM   #16545
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Well yes. And if you express those numbers in terms of percentage attrition (something which is obviously a lot more significant for the well represented brands than the bikes that are only there in ones and twos), the facts carry a stark message...
Brand - No. of starters -Attrition Rate

KTM - 67 - 20.9%
YAM - 52 - 32.7%
HON - 36 - 30.6%
HUQ - 10 - 40%
SHER - 4 - 50%
KAW - 3 - 0%
BERG - 3 - 100%
GG - 3 - 0%
TM - 2 - 0%
JING - 2 - 0%
BETA - 2 - 100%
BMW - 2 - 100%
SUZ - 1 - 0%
BULTACO - 1 - 100%


So if you want to win, you ride a KTM. If you just want to finish, then you could decide to ride a Kawasaki or a Suzuki, if sample sizes of one are your bag. But you probably want a KTM. It seems incredible that KTMs are both the fastest AND the most reliable (although you'd need to drill down further to work out what it is about the KTM that means KTM riders are twice as likely to get to the finish as Husky riders, and 50% more likely to finish than either Honda or Yamaha pilots)
Whilst these 'statistics' seem ok from a distance, there are probably a few more variables that should be taken into consideration.
Such as:
- bike investment cost
- number of engine changes
- number of DNF's due to injury
- number of DNF's due to mechanical
Etc
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