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Old 01-18-2013, 09:32 PM   #6766
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Would you mind suggesting something better then?
I have a Wester Powersports heavy duty chain on mine since last summer. Have not had to adjust it, and no problems. I don't remember what it cost me though.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:34 PM   #6767
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Carb bowl gaskets

Anyone know a source for the bowl gaskets? All you can get from honda is a complete kit. Seems like a lot of extra parts just to get the rubber orings for the bowls. I made a inline, literally, fuel filter today. I had a plastic one that broke, and was tired off the extra loop in the hose to make it work. So I pulled the little filter screen thingy out of the plastic. Fits tight inside a .25 inch hose. Pushed it in checked for good flow. Seems to work. Screen is to big to go into inlet on carb, and fits tight enough that it should filter ok. I don't know if it was a dumb idea, but gave me something to do for a few minutes.

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Old 01-18-2013, 10:16 PM   #6768
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OK so I got the head back onto my engine today and assembled the cam shaft and chain.

At absolute TDC, with the forward half (the non-tensioner half) of the cam chain pulled taught, this is the line-up I got with the marks on the camshaft sprocket:



The marks are of course supposed to line up exactly with the gasket mating surface, but mine didn't. Definitely not an issue of the chain being a tooth off... it was too close for that. But it's OFF in the way that it is is consistent, I believe, with a stretched cam chain.

Right?

Time for a new cam chain.... right?
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:16 PM   #6769
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I would get the full kit, if it's still available. It's always good to have extra parts!
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:40 PM   #6770
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Would you mind suggesting something better then?
Buy brand name. If you never heard of it before other than some dumbasses sugestion , then dont buy it . Would you buy a brand of bike you never heard of before. Store brands are not brand name.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:34 AM   #6771
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OK so I got the head back onto my engine today and assembled the cam shaft and chain.

At absolute TDC, with the forward half (the non-tensioner half) of the cam chain pulled taught, this is the line-up I got with the marks on the camshaft sprocket:



The marks are of course supposed to line up exactly with the gasket mating surface, but mine didn't. Definitely not an issue of the chain being a tooth off... it was too close for that. But it's OFF in the way that it is is consistent, I believe, with a stretched cam chain.

Right?

Time for a new cam chain.... right?

By any chance do you have the cam gear 180' out or upside down? Where is the mark TDC??
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #6772
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NEEDED 86 XL 600 regulator and left side cover

I have an 86 in really good shape, been riding regularly, in between the extreme cold. The regulator went bad and cooked my battery, now I am sidelined and need to get back on two wheels. Thanks for looking around. Andy
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:19 AM   #6773
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By any chance do you have the cam gear 180' out or upside down? Where is the mark TDC??

The TDC mark is dead-on. I actually set up a little jig with a machine vise holding a ratchet/socket to ensure the mark is exactly lined up, which wasn't that easy.

And no, the cam sprocket is not 180 off... I used a paint-pen during disassembly to help me put it back together in the same way.

So all that being said... do you agree that a new cam chain is called for? Seems wise to do, now that the engine is on the workbench. Plus, the bike shows 28,XXX on the odometer, and although someone has been in the engine in the past to freshen some things up, there's no way to know if they paid any attention to the cam chain. For all I know the chain could have 28,000 miles on it.....
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:56 AM   #6774
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By any chance do you have the cam gear 180' out or upside down? Where is the mark TDC??
After thinking about it a bit, though... it seems you are suggesting that it might make a difference if the cam sprocket is off by 180.... (which seems to me hard to believe... I would think that the imaginary line through the two mounting bolt holes would be exactly perpendicular to the two witness marks...)

But the PO may well have put the sprocket in 180 off... so if it is the case that is might make a difference, I could certainly try rotating it and checking again....
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #6775
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IIRC the sprocket should have three marks on it. 9 o'clock, noon/TDC and 3 o'clock. I don't see the 12 o'clock mark in your picture.

This is from my XR650l but you should have the same markings.



If you can't get the 9 and 3 o'clock marks to line up with the edge of the head that is the tell tale sign that the chain has stretched.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:40 PM   #6776
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Buy brand name. If you never heard of it before other than some dumbasses sugestion , then dont buy it . Would you buy a brand of bike you never heard of before. Store brands are not brand name.

I'm a dumbass?? He asked for a suggestion, I gave it to him. He said he was cheap, fucker. If he didn'tsay he was cheap, I wouldn't have suggested my POS cheap chain. Sometimes when you're in a pinch and you wanna keep on riding, you gotta buy a temporary cheap part until you can get a good part with a reputation. And sometimes, you can buy something cheap and it be as good as anything else.

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I thought about just using a regular master link with it, but wasn't sure if it would work?
I had the mechanic at my local shop install it. I walked in looking to buy a regular master-link but they don't carry them, just the plates and rivets. So they had me bring the bike down and they installed the chain for me.

I think a regular masterlink would be fine, just less chance of mechanical disconnect with the riveted link
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:48 PM   #6777
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I didnt say YOU were a dumbass specifically , you just stepped up.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:51 PM   #6778
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I didnt say YOU were a dumbass specifically , you just stepped up.
You said "If you never heard of it before other than some dumbasses sugestion , then dont buy it"

I was the only 'dumbass' with a suggestion. How specific do you need to be? Get back to fixing your damned air conditioners. (I'm just mad cuz I don't have one)
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:04 PM   #6779
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I agree I'm going to find a chain tool.

Thanks Buddy

(Least popular one I can find too )


BTW I'm not cheap just poor

Those chain tools are a lil pricey themselves, just a heads up.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:43 PM   #6780
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Hello all. I have been following the thread for awhile and figured I might as well say hi. I scooped up this 85 XL600R a few months ago, tore it part way down, put it back together, and rode it. What a ridiculously fun motorcycle . Now I think I'm hearing the timing chain noise, so that is the next thing to address. Ah well, wrenching on the beastie is kind of fun. Anyway, here is my bike.


Uh...no photo, it would seem. little help?

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