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Old 01-19-2013, 09:15 AM   #51916
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
Well Lipos are the bomb, but I moved my battery under the seat long before the Shorai's came on the scene. I've been running a stock battery for the CR-F 250 (the street legal one) for 5 yrs or so. If you're gonna keep the stock saddlebag, I'd recommend sticking with the Pb Yuasa.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:17 AM   #51917
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
Yuasa batteries are top quality......can`t go wrong with them,i`ve seen them last 8+ years.........

Lithium Ion batteries do not like cold.........you have to repeatedly try starting your bike so the battery warms up before it puts out decent CCA...

I`m afraid of the Shorai batteries,,lokk like cheap junk.......they work well for some,,others have sent them back repeatedly because they failed..

If,and that`s a big IF..........i was buying a lithium battery i`d try the Anti-Gravity brand.....at least it`s not offshore crap..better warranty..

But,,if you ride in cold weather,,stay with a wet battery,,better performance in the cold..

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #51918
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I'm sorry to admit to everyone (on this thread only) that Ive joined the Yamaha 2 stroke club and picked up a WR250-Z. plan is after im cleared by docs to drive again whenever that is, im gonna get a street title for it like i did with a 1984 IT490 in the past (bike before my XR650L). I'll still be an RFVC guy at heart, but this should get me by and to work and back once im cleared, and until i save up enough for another XR.

bone stock, my old man who weighs 220 lbs took it up and down the street, wheelied it by accident in 3ed gear! will be a blast once im able to ride it!




it aint much to look at now, but my inspiration bike is this one here. wanna have it styled similar and looking just as nice. I know these bikes have nothing to do with XRs but mostly posting to say ive picked up a new ride and am slowly but surely recovering and can be riding anytime from a week from now or even maybe several more months. depending on what the docs say.
I owned 1991 version of the same bike. Was too much for me at first so I put a flywheel weight on. That mellowed the power band enough. After about a year, the bike seemed sluggish so took the weight off. Woo who! All that zip came right back but by now my skills had developed enough to enjoy it. The suspension had been gone through a big name firm in SOCal and was set up for senior expert desert racer. It was the best bike for rocky, desert conditions. Just point and hit the gas. Loved it. Anyway, hope you can get it plated.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:26 AM   #51919
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
The low weight and small size of the lithium is attractive ,but they also die with no warning. Lead acid gets weak before dying altogether.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:38 AM   #51920
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Yuasa batteries are top quality......can`t go wrong with them,i`ve seen them last 8+ years.........

Lithium Ion batteries do not like cold.........you have to repeatedly try starting your bike so the battery warms up before it puts out decent CCA...

I`m afraid of the Shorai batteries,,lokk like cheap junk.......they work well for some,,others have sent them back repeatedly because they failed..

If,and that`s a big IF..........i was buying a lithium battery i`d try the Anti-Gravity brand.....at least it`s not offshore crap..better warranty..

But,,if you ride in cold weather,,stay with a wet battery,,better performance in the cold..

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My Shorai wont start my bike once temps drop below freezing... at all! Wont even crank it over. I have to use the kickstart. Of course, I dont ride when the temps are below freezing so it's not a big deal.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:04 AM   #51921
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My Shorai wont start my bike once temps drop below freezing... at all! Wont even crank it over. I have to use the kickstart. Of course, I dont ride when the temps are below freezing so it's not a big deal.
Any idea if the Anti-gravity 8-cell might be better in the cold?

Temps around here are usually only below freezing at night for a couple weeks a year.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:17 AM   #51922
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Any idea if the Anti-gravity 8-cell might be better in the cold?

Temps around here are usually only below freezing at night for a couple weeks a year.
Same deal.all the Lithium batteries i know of suck in cold temps,

Lighter than OE..........yes.......dependable..sometimes......g ood in cold weather..NO...

I`m in no rush to buy something that will die if a paristic drain occurs...voids warranty.........i still don`t see them as an option yet..

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Old 01-19-2013, 11:26 AM   #51923
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I recently went from 15/45 to 15/48, and honestly I didn't notice as much of a difference as I thought there would be. I can feel that it pulls a little better, but cruising speed/rpm didn't really change very much.

I might try out a 14 front this summer when I hit the trails.
I went from stock 15/45 to 14/45, which is pretty close to your change, and at my elevation (5000ft) I noticed a nice difference. It brought 5th gear down enough to pull much better, and gave me much more snap in the other gears, plus it made 2nd way more usable in the dirt. Like you said I can still cruise 70+ no problem tho......I like this gearing, nice compromise for the street and dirt
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:35 AM   #51924
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I went from stock 15/45 to 14/45, which is pretty close to your change, and at my elevation (5000ft) I noticed a nice difference. It brought 5th gear down enough to pull much better, and gave me much more snap in the other gears, plus it made 2nd way more usable in the dirt. Like you said I can still cruise 70+ no problem tho......I like this gearing, nice compromise for the street and dirt
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:36 AM   #51925
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My Shorai wont start my bike once temps drop below freezing... at all! Wont even crank it over. I have to use the kickstart. Of course, I dont ride when the temps are below freezing so it's not a big deal.
Kick start??
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:04 PM   #51926
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Kick start??
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:55 PM   #51927
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Glad to hear your recovery is going well! I won't hold the new bike against you. Looks like fun!
Absolutely agree. That header and those lights are gorgeous. We all wish you well with this endeavor--it is surely a boost to your morale, and will speed your recovery. I suspect that you will heal, and then spend a few years riding the snot out of this 2 stroke. Eventually you will calm down, and come back.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:10 PM   #51928
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
I always keep my bikes plugged into a battery tender when parked.....I get around 10 years out of my lead acid batteries. I use the $21 Schumacher motorcycle specific 1.5 amp smart charger/maintainers from Wal-Mart...they work awesome, and I haven't had one quit yet Plus they more than pay for themselves by keeping a single battery alive for 10 years
If saving 4 1/2 lbs of weight isn't that important to you, a 60 buck agm lead-acid battery with a tender will last you forever. If you want to save the 4 1/2 lbs, you can spend 106-120 I believe for a Shoria lithium.....although I've heard they can have some quality issues. Or you can pay 150-up for some of the other brands. I opted for the lead acid agm because I've had such good luck with them, and 4 1/2 lbs didn't matter to me. Plus the lithiums don't like cold, where a well-charged lead-acid agm will fire up reliably in all conditions.

I am going to try a lithium down the road tho, when the prices come down some more and the technology goes up
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:20 PM   #51929
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The battery on my L is going. Its really weak in sub 32F temps. Currently got a deka lead acid that only lasted 2 years. The bike is ridden often if not everyday never sits unstarted for more than a week. Question is which replacement should I go with. A better brand leadacid, gel cell, Lithium Ion?

I dont want to do the relocation just want a battery that last more than 2 seasons. I got a Yuasa in my quad which i start 4 times a year and its been in there for three years with no problem
If you are running heated gear, or a lot of other accesories, you should stick with a lead-acid battery. Motocross manufactures batteries for Yuasu. I bought a Motocross battery for my 200cc trail bike, and it has performed flawlessly. Therefore, I encourage you to check out the Motocross YTX9-BS battery, which costs $65.

http://www.batterystuff.com/batterie...motocross.html



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