2013 Honda CBR500R and CB500F - Page 19

Navin · 01-20-2013, 01:53 PM

The Ninja 250/500s sound like a propane powered forklift at low RPMs, thankfully the 300 isn't cursed with that. Effectiveness comes first but the blatting and scooterish sounds do get irritating on the older twins.

Thunka-thunka-thunka.

Stealth Rider · 01-20-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gham

You're kidding right....?

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Originally Posted by Navin

That was horrid!

Go ahead and post ones you think sound better of similar model...

RaY YreKa · 01-20-2013, 03:05 PM

More and more, with higher costs of living, I'm thinking these bikes are the future.

If you do 2,000 miles a year, sunny w/e's, posing with mates, enjoying the power of big bikes, then maybe you won't get it.

And that's perfectly OK.

But if you do big miles, want to see your country or continent, and stay within a blue collar budget, you might need these bikes.

Any two-wheels is better than no two-wheels.

I've owned a CBR1100XX, a couple of BMW GS's, and a dozen bikes in between. I love big torque..

But huge cost-of-living rises are forcing me to downsize. I'll give up some bhp and torque just to continue my love of motorcycles, and travel on 2-wheels.

YMMV.

Grainbelt · 01-20-2013, 03:10 PM

I was daydreaming the other day about how long a set of good dual-compound sport touring tires would last on 50hp, since they I can get 15k mi front/ 10k mi rear out of a bike with 100hp...

Less is more, sometimes. I miss running a bike to redline in four gears, legally. If my GF's CX500C is any indication, I could not only get by, but have fun.

Gham · 01-21-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Rider

Go ahead and post ones you think sound better of similar model...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmJloJfw7iA

I hope this works,this sounds better to me although having recorded before I understand how much sound equipment can have an effect on quality.

mrbreeze · 01-21-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RaY YreKa

More and more, with higher costs of living, I'm thinking these bikes are the future.

If you do 2,000 miles a year, sunny w/e's, posing with mates, enjoying the power of big bikes, then maybe you won't get it.

And that's perfectly OK.

But if you do big miles, want to see your country or continent, and stay within a blue collar budget, you might need these bikes.

Any two-wheels is better than no two-wheels.

I've owned a CBR1100XX, a couple of BMW GS's, and a dozen bikes in between. I love big torque..

But huge cost-of-living rises are forcing me to downsize. I'll give up some bhp and torque just to continue my love of motorcycles, and travel on 2-wheels.

YMMV.

you are right on.

A buddy of mine decided he wanted a Harley. He didn't want to ride a "rice burner" any more. So he sold his big Suzuki and saved his pennies for 6 years until he finally could by a softtail. Not me. I wouldn't give up 6 years of riding for a softtail. I will ride what I can afford.

Honesty · 01-21-2013, 07:47 PM

Is there an official wet weight on these little things yet? I'm heavily considering getting rid of my NT650 for one.

If it weighs around 350 or 370 then I just might pull the trigger. I'd like to get rid of carburetors... Plus this bike's peak figures seem to be pretty inline with my Hawk's tbh. I know my engine is bigger but it's a 25-year-old bike now. :(

EastBoundAndDown · 01-21-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by honesty

is there an official wet weight on these little things yet? I'm heavily considering getting rid of my nt650 for one.

If it weighs around 350 or 370 then i just might pull the trigger. I'd like to get rid of carburetors... Plus this bike's peak figures seem to be pretty inline with my hawk's tbh. I know my engine is bigger but it's a 25-year-old bike now. :(

2003+ SV650. 364lbs dry. 71 peak RWHP. Fuel Injection.

Grainbelt · 01-21-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Honesty

Is there an official wet weight on these little things yet? I'm heavily considering getting rid of my NT650 for one.

CB500F is supposed to be 420 wet including a full 4 gal tank.

For comparison, Wiki says your NT650 is 412 wet with a 3 gal tank.

So, comparable. In fact, a gallon of gas is about six pounds, so they are damn near identical.

Gryphon12 · 01-21-2013, 09:57 PM

Only street twin in the US today that's 378 lbs. wet is the new Ninja EX300R.

New Duke 690 Thumper weighs 352 lbs. wet.

Honesty · 01-27-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EastBoundAndDown

2003+ SV650. 364lbs dry. 71 peak RWHP. Fuel Injection.

Ugh, does the SV650 really make that much power? Sheesh... I thought the Hawk was pretty close to that but I guess I was dead wrong. The SV really is an awesome little bike. Might actually bump it up above these new CBs now that I think about it.

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Originally Posted by Grainbelt

CB500F is supposed to be 420 wet including a full 4 gal tank.

For comparison, Wiki says your NT650 is 412 wet with a 3 gal tank.

So, comparable. In fact, a gallon of gas is about six pounds, so they are damn near identical.

Hmm, this has me thinking it wouldn't be much of a step forward so much as sideways. I'm in love with the CBR500's styling though.

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Originally Posted by Gryphon12

Only street twin in the US today that's 378 lbs. wet is the new Ninja EX300R.

New Duke 690 Thumper weighs 352 lbs. wet.

I like the Duke a lot as far as the numbers go, but I'd have to ride it first. Not crazy about the engine configuration. :\

Cortez · 01-27-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Grainbelt

I was daydreaming the other day about how long a set of good dual-compound sport touring tires would last on 50hp, since they I can get 15k mi front/ 10k mi rear out of a bike with 100hp...

I changed the stock BT020s on my 650R at 16-17k, rear still wasn't at the
wear bar.

Grainbelt · 01-27-2013, 11:44 AM

we've already established that you ride like a sissy.

dduelin · 01-27-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Honesty

Is there an official wet weight on these little things yet? I'm heavily considering getting rid of my NT650 for one.

If it weighs around 350 or 370 then I just might pull the trigger. I'd like to get rid of carburetors... Plus this bike's peak figures seem to be pretty inline with my Hawk's tbh. I know my engine is bigger but it's a 25-year-old bike now. :(

In order to sell the 500s for riders in the new EU A2 class license tier the bike has to weigh a minimum of 175 kg or 385 lbs. This license class change effectively requires manufacturers that intend to sell bikes to riders less than 24 years old bring to market bikes that weigh 385 lbs or more curb weight ready-to-ride and have a maximum of 47 hp. Honda cannot ignore the huge UK and European market so the 500s are not going to weigh in under 385 lbs. Honda US says they weigh 420-430 lbs. depending on model.

dogjaw · 01-27-2013, 02:46 PM

I've been following this thread as well S various others concerning the CB500, and have somehow missed two things:

Where does the CB redline? I rode the NC700x, was put off by the 6500 rev limiter, otherwise a nice bike...

And does it have enough electrical output to run auxiliary lighting, heated grips, etc? Thinking of getting a bike for escort duty, the CB, NC, weestrom, etc all being considered.

01-20-2013, 03:05 PM	#273
RaY YreKa I Am the Mayor Joined: Mar 2007 Location: YreKa BaKery Oddometer: 15,630	More and more, with higher costs of living, I'm thinking these bikes are the future. If you do 2,000 miles a year, sunny w/e's, posing with mates, enjoying the power of big bikes, then maybe you won't get it. And that's perfectly OK. But if you do big miles, want to see your country or continent, and stay within a blue collar budget, you might need these bikes. Any two-wheels is better than no two-wheels. I've owned a CBR1100XX, a couple of BMW GS's, and a dozen bikes in between. I love big torque.. But huge cost-of-living rises are forcing me to downsize. I'll give up some bhp and torque just to continue my love of motorcycles, and travel on 2-wheels. YMMV. __________________ IBA #40578 shine on, you crazy emo diamond RaY YreKa screwed with this post 01-20-2013 at 04:32 PM

01-20-2013, 03:10 PM	#274
Grainbelt marginal adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Minnyhappiness Oddometer: 25,035	I was daydreaming the other day about how long a set of good dual-compound sport touring tires would last on 50hp, since they I can get 15k mi front/ 10k mi rear out of a bike with 100hp... Less is more, sometimes. I miss running a bike to redline in four gears, legally. If my GF's CX500C is any indication, I could not only get by, but have fun. Grainbelt screwed with this post 01-20-2013 at 03:18 PM

01-21-2013, 09:57 PM	#280
Gryphon12 Studly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Carnation, WA USA Oddometer: 699	Only street twin in the US today that's 378 lbs. wet is the new Ninja EX300R. New Duke 690 Thumper weighs 352 lbs. wet. __________________ 1990 Honda NT-650 Hawk-GT Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead

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01-20-2013, 01:53 PM	#271
Navin Unwounding Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Mudville Oddometer: 4,323	The Ninja 250/500s sound like a propane powered forklift at low RPMs, thankfully the 300 isn't cursed with that. Effectiveness comes first but the blatting and scooterish sounds do get irritating on the older twins. Thunka-thunka-thunka.

01-21-2013, 07:47 PM	#277
Honesty n00b Joined: Jan 2013 Oddometer: 9	Is there an official wet weight on these little things yet? I'm heavily considering getting rid of my NT650 for one. If it weighs around 350 or 370 then I just might pull the trigger. I'd like to get rid of carburetors... Plus this bike's peak figures seem to be pretty inline with my Hawk's tbh. I know my engine is bigger but it's a 25-year-old bike now. :(

01-27-2013, 11:44 AM	#283
Grainbelt marginal adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Minnyhappiness Oddometer: 25,035	we've already established that you ride like a sissy.

01-27-2013, 02:46 PM	#285
dogjaw plays well alone Joined: Jul 2008 Location: between the Ozarks and the Ouachitas Oddometer: 1,377	I've been following this thread as well S various others concerning the CB500, and have somehow missed two things: Where does the CB redline? I rode the NC700x, was put off by the 6500 rev limiter, otherwise a nice bike... And does it have enough electrical output to run auxiliary lighting, heated grips, etc? Thinking of getting a bike for escort duty, the CB, NC, weestrom, etc all being considered.