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Old 01-20-2013, 01:40 AM   #4021
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So any REAL world mpg's numbers out there??
Tons of. But you need to do the conversion calculation on your own.
http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebers...ml?powerunit=2
From the experience of our (big) forum riders you can go twisty roads with fun starting at around 3l/100km with the manual clutch version. For regular use of all kinds you will average in between 3l/100km and 4l/100km. With DCT I have an average of 3,6l/100km. Even at a ride where I did more than 40km of full throttle riding (GPS spd up to 182km/h) it stayed below 4l/100km for that tank fill up.

Racetrack riders report, it would stay under 6l/100km for absolut full throttle riding.
Several tests confirmed, it will take 4.3l/100km when riding at 130km/h constantly.

These values are quite realistic. So, for commuting at 80km/h-100km/h the manual clutch version will stay a little over 3l/100km, max. 3.5l/100km, depending on riding style, road characteristics and traffic circumstances. The DCT will take slightly more, but not a lot.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:40 AM   #4022
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Seriously? What do you think it does, improve exhaust smell?
What do you think going from an EPA mandated strangled 14.3 AFR to an optimum 13.4 AFR does?

The dyno charts I've seen show around a 5% power increase for the PCV alone.
http://www.holeshot.com/dynocharts/images/c14_dyno.jpg
On the 48.5bhp NC700 that would be around 2.5bhp increase to 51bhp just for the PCV.
Of course everybody knows that the best results are achieved when you do air, fuel and exhaust upgrades together.

Look, if uncorking a bike isn't for you fine. You know what's best for you.
But for those who want some more get up and go, it's there.
Different strokes for different folks, doncha know.
Yes, I'm aware of that, but I just think it doesn't make sense on THIS bike
since if you need these few HP more so desperately you bought the wrong bike.
It's made for great fuel economy and low down torque.

Buying a Versys or a 650R for about the same money gives you a LOT more.

In all honesty, the NC700X feels closer in perfomance to my "uncorked"
30hp scooter then to my ex Ninja 650, and reading the specs it should
sit right between the two.

The 650R is A LOT faster.

The NC700X is a great package, I wouldn't touch anything on it, I just with
it was lighter (but it does feel a lot lighter then it is). Not much you can do
about that I guess.. other then the exhaust.

Light wheels are a huge investment.

On the other hand, going lighter would make the fuel economy even better,
and all your mods would probably make the bike return the MPG figures of
the already mentioned Versys/650R, and still wouldn't be nearly as fast.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:30 AM   #4023
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motorcycle.com just did a direct comparison between the Versys and 700X for anyone interested. I didn't see reference to it in the last couple of pages. If it helps...I have the V and it's an awesomely good public road bike. The best I've found for me, thus far. I'd like more fit-and-finish quality, however, and more mpg's for my commuter is always good.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:01 PM   #4024
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I do a lot of 70mph riding and have a lifespan average of 70.4 mpg over 3000 miles.

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:56 PM   #4025
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NC700X impressively quick overtaking while ascending Passo San Gottardo.

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Old 01-20-2013, 01:39 PM   #4026
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NC700X impressively quick overtaking while ascending Passo San Gottardo.
The guy from this video is one of the fast riders from the german nc700x Forum. He averages at little more than 4l/100km. The Gotthard video you are referring to was taken with 2 persons on bike and full baggage!!
Just to make this clear.
He BTW also published an impressive topspeed video. This is the manual shifting version.

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Old 01-20-2013, 01:57 PM   #4027
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The guy from this video is one of the fast riders from the german nc700x Forum. He averages at little more than 4l/100km. The Gotthard video you are referring to was taken with 2 persons on bike and full baggage!!
Just to make this clear.
He BTW also published an impressive topspeed video. This is the manual shifting version.

Regards, Phil
Whoa, doubley impressive.
Going to be a big upgrade from my KLR.
I remember now the quick pic of the guy and the girl in the middle of the vid.
I'll check out his Topspeed vid.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:25 PM   #4028
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This fuel consumption stuff is getting on my nerves.

I've managed a 3.3l/100km riding like a normal person on a relatively
straight road up to 75mph at times but using that overdrive gear as
often as possible (55mph+).

Riding like a maniac, shifting as late as possible and downshifting on every
overtake (average probably around 4000-5000) and revving it out to the
redline every time I had to stop on the same trip as above -

I never went above 80mph, maybe once or twice, and kept using 6th above
60mph.

It was way faster pace then I'd normally ride at and borderline dangerous.
I got 3.6l/100km that time.

That's 71 and 65MPG!

Anyone getting worse then that is either abusing the engine riding at
unnecessarily high revs OR riding at speeds over 80mph all the time.

I got freakin' 65MPG without being overtaken ONCE on my Ninja 650R
on a 400 mile trip, heavy on the throttle, but not revving it's nuts off
(4500-6000 when at nice canyon-like roads, and 75 in 6th everywhere else).

Even the 650R was great, that's basically a 250cc scooter MPG category, and the
NC is obviously better.

I bet I could get it down to 78 MPG.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:49 PM   #4029
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90% of the reasons I want the NC is mpg's,the other 10% is price.




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Old 01-20-2013, 02:59 PM   #4030
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90% of the reasons I want the NC is mpg's,the other 10% is price.
That seems very sad if you just let go on all the riding fun it could easily deliver.

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Old 01-20-2013, 04:35 PM   #4031
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This fuel consumption stuff is getting on my nerves.

I've managed a 3.3l/100km riding like a normal person on a relatively
straight road up to 75mph at times but using that overdrive gear as
often as possible (55mph+).

Riding like a maniac, shifting as late as possible and downshifting on every
overtake (average probably around 4000-5000) and revving it out to the
redline every time I had to stop on the same trip as above -

I never went above 80mph, maybe once or twice, and kept using 6th above
60mph.

It was way faster pace then I'd normally ride at and borderline dangerous.
I got 3.6l/100km that time.

That's 71 and 65MPG!

Anyone getting worse then that is either abusing the engine riding at
unnecessarily high revs OR riding at speeds over 80mph all the time.

I got freakin' 65MPG without being overtaken ONCE on my Ninja 650R
on a 400 mile trip, heavy on the throttle, but not revving it's nuts off
(4500-6000 when at nice canyon-like roads, and 75 in 6th everywhere else).

Even the 650R was great, that's basically a 250cc scooter MPG category, and the
NC is obviously better.

I bet I could get it down to 78 MPG.
Very nice numbers, and excuse my ignorance, but I presume that is not the same as U.S. mpg's? Sounds way too good to be true if you're riding aggressively. I'd love it to be so, though.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #4032
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I do a lot of 70mph riding and have a lifespan average of 70.4 mpg over 3000 miles.

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Very nice numbers, and excuse my ignorance, but I presume that is not the same as U.S. mpg's? Sounds way too good to be true if you're riding aggressively. I'd love it to be so, though.
Kart22 posted similar MPG in the US...............other than fuel quality (alcohol) In the US the bike should deliver the same power and mpg.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:32 PM   #4033
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Very nice numbers, and excuse my ignorance, but I presume that is not the same as U.S. mpg's? Sounds way too good to be true if you're riding aggressively. I'd love it to be so, though.
I completed an IBA Saddle Sore 1000 on my NC700X a few weeks ago. For the first half of the 1054 miles I had a strong headwind with gusts to 29 mph and the mpg average for this 500 or so miles was 56.45. The second half with a slight to no tailwind garnered 65.1 mpg average. I rode mostly between 70 to 80 mph except for a +/- 50 mile section at and near Atlanta, GA where traffic was moving somewhat faster. These are US gallon mpg and I had to maintain a log of gas station receipts to document the route traveled and time. Mpg was calculated after odometer error was corrected. The numbers are accurate.

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:00 PM   #4034
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Very nice numbers, and excuse my ignorance, but I presume that is not the same as U.S. mpg's? Sounds way too good to be true if you're riding aggressively. I'd love it to be so, though.
This is US mpg's with a 77.6 US mpg average. http://www.fuelly.com/driver/670cc/nc700x
My best was 76.3 mpg US, 670cc's 80.3 mpg US is hard to beat.
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This is US mpg's with a 77.6 US mpg average. http://www.fuelly.com/driver/670cc/nc700x
My best was 76.3 mpg US, 670cc's 80.3 mpg US is hard to beat.
I'd like to see what the NC700X, with and without aero aids, could do in Craig Vetter's fuel economy challenge.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/201...Challenge.html
Somebody almost did last year.
Anybody recognize this guy?

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