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Old 03-25-2012, 03:36 AM   #46
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What about a Ford transit connect?
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:18 PM   #47
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have an 06 Grand caravan w/ sto & go seats, pleasure to drive, very dependable, lots of room, great for camping.....
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:05 PM   #48
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If you must own a minivan (I ripped on them somewhat earlier in the thread), and you can find an AWD Astro that isn't beat to hell, buy it.

I've known three people who have owned them, and they're basically indestructible. A friend of mine pulled up to a party this weekend in a beat up old Astro with 200k plus miles on it, and first thing he said was "don't make fun of the Astro!" I told him no way would I. They're great vehicles. Another friend called his "an encapsulated pickup truck" which, basically it was.
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:42 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by espacef1fan View Post
Any pics of a Ninja 250 in a Caravan with stow and go seats?
I have pics of a few different bikes in my 2000 Grand Caravan but it doesn't have stow aways.

I prefer this model because by removing the seats I've taken over 100lbs out of the vehicle. Then I use the areas in the floor where the seats clamp down to as tie down points. You KNOW they gotta be strong!

I've gone cross country a few times with a bike in the back with room to sleep right next to it.

Lemme know if you want pics even tho it's not the newer stow away model. Mark H.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:23 AM   #50
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You have ~1" extra inch of headroom in the cargo area in the non "stow&go" versions.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:47 AM   #51
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Here is a link to a very close to new 89 Toyota x-tra cab that I'm selling. Hard to find model. LINK

Selling to make room for the sprinter van that I'm picking up.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:39 AM   #52
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Truck's paid off? Doesn't need major repairs?

You'll end up going backwards $ wise with whatever it is you buy now comparatively.

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Old 01-17-2013, 07:18 AM   #53
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you'll like stow & go until you need to change a tire.( have had road service refuse to fix a flat due to stow & go) especially if you live in salt country. my wife has a GC 3.8. in the summer it's loaded with travel soccer kids traveling the northeast to tournaments. bought it used & put 70k (134k total) on it since. zero problems other than northeast salt cancer. average 24.4mpg to tourneys. 18 all around driving. I am continually amazed at what she manages to fit in it

I haul oversize loads that need escorting. have had many escorts with Chevy, dodge, & Chrysler vans w/ north if 200k on them.

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Old 01-18-2013, 03:11 AM   #54
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Learned to drive in a 2001 Odyssey, and occasionally get stuck driving it now as well. Driving manners are decent for a van. To be fair, ours desperately needs new shocks, so it could be better. We tend to average around 19-20mpg, mixed driving, with 24-25 being the highest (all freeway). We have munched one transmission (4spd) so far- Honda had some issues with them, so they ended up covering half of that bill (van was already wayyy out of warranty).

Compared to the brief drive I've had in a Windstar (absolutely power, no brakes, felt like it was going to tip over any time you went near a corner), the Odyssey is a decent choice.

Haven't seen used prices, but I can't imagine them being too high.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:07 AM   #55
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My 2 cents...

I have had 4 caravans over the last 8 years (company car- we swap them out every 75-100K) ---they are great. We have several friends that have the honda and dodge.

A few general observations that span the years 2005-2013

Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan and TC are the same- TC's are a little fancier
-Get the largeer engine- they get better gas milage-- usually 22-24 on highway
-must have stow and go- I regularly have 2-6 people in the car- never has anyone mentioned seats are uncomfortable
-must have stow and go- you are never home when you want to "remove" the seats-- then what? You just dump them in the floor and haul your junk!
-change the oil regularly
-2010 and up go through brakes faster
-*** make sure you get the power adjustable driver seat*** I have had two with it, two without it, and it sucks not to have it. Maybe it's because our other cars have it, but you can get your seat just right and leave it....

Honda Odyssey 2006ish to 2010 ish
-Friends love them- nicer on the inside
-can't stow seats in the floor, have to remove them
-same gas milage as the dodge

Mazda MPV
-friens loved theirs,but it was older- ~1999-2002, so really not fair to compare

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Old 01-19-2013, 06:37 AM   #56
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:38 AM   #57
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Here's some pics of a cb750 I had just bought loaded into my buddy's caravan. All we had to do was remove the mirrors, I don't think we even had to lower the handelbars. We got it in by backing it up a plank (that was seated in the sliding door track) into the side door and then sliding the rear wheel on a piece of cardboard to move it around in the van so it would all fit. Tied it down to the seating mounts.

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Old 01-19-2013, 08:25 AM   #58
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I have a 2005 Grand Caravan with Stow and Go, love the seats folding, I have ridden several hours in the second row seats and no complaints about comfort(I'm ~5'11" and 150 lbs.). with the seats folded it will hold a 4x8 sheet of whatever flat on the floor with the liftgate closed. Gets a solid 21 or so mpg average in mixed driving, last time we went to St Louis it was a 438 mile drive according to Google Maps, we made it without refuelling, this is with a 20 gallon tank in the van, so do the math, probably about 24 or 25 mpg. Its got 130,000 on it, trans is fine, had a couple fuel injectors go bad and take the cat out with them but thats the only real problem we have had since we got in 2008 with 50,000 on it.

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:00 AM   #59
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Lots of vans, mini and otherwise, have hauled lots of bikes.

I had a wagon when I was a kid (92 Mitsubishi Expo). Only non-pickup I've ever had. I ran the heck out of it. Hauled lots of dudes, stuff, I moved a couple times.

A minivan would suit many of my needs for hauling and even most of the towing I do.


I'd feel awfully bad putting a dead critter in the back, and with a pickup, I don't need a trailer to haul a load of yard waste. Too wide? It can hang. Too long? It can hang. Buckets of crab, piles of crab pots, fresh from the salt with seaweed hanging? Dirty? Wet? Muddy? Dusty? No worries.

Also, with my pickup, I don't have to worry about too many friends begging for boat seats all at once.

Tonneau cover and a headache rack and bed extender. I can haul a much more diverse set of loads.

And with MPG's the same...I'll take the vehicle that does everything I need it to, instead of 90%
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:40 PM   #60
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Have you considered Jetta SportWagon TDI?
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