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Old 01-20-2013, 07:59 PM   #1
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Having trouble seating the bead on heidenau's k60 scouts

I'm changing to these in my Tiger and I can't seem to get the bead to seat. I even tried to use a ratcheting tie down strap around the tire but no luck.

Anyone got some good ideas?
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:14 PM   #2
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try taking out the valve stem to get more volume of air in, did you lube the bead too?? You'll need a decent cfm compressor, not a little 110 tire pump thingy, or worse 12volt pump.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:18 PM   #3
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Had the same problem with a heidenau K73 for my tubeless rear rim.

I took it to the tire shop and they helped me get it set. Used a bead blaster air tank.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:59 PM   #4
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+1 on the tire lube and use the real stuff, Napa carries it for about $12/gal IIRC, a gallon would probably last a hobbyist a lifetime. Also try pumping the tire up to 50-60 psi, that will often do the trick and get the bead to seat and usually you will hear a pop when it happens...

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:10 PM   #5
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I was using soapy water. The big blocks seated real easily.

These wont even pressure up.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:23 PM   #6
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I was using soapy water. The big blocks seated real easily.

These wont even pressure up.
hmmm, what are you using as an air source? If it won't flow a fair volume as said above sometimes tubeless tires won't seat. I ran into that once before I had a compressor and ended up connecting two hand pump air chucks with a hose and connecting one end to a inflated auto tire and one to the MC tire and that worked....once the MC tire held air I was able to fill both up w/ my bicycle pump. A portable air tank might work too...or maybe a bead seater?? have not tried one myself but they are supposed to seat even the most difficult tires




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Old 01-20-2013, 10:08 PM   #7
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I was using my 6gal home compressor that I use for air tools and filling up tires. It probably is not putting out enough volume.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:58 PM   #8
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Push one side against the wheel by hand, then use an old (or new) bicycle tube to fill the gap on the other side. Maybe a piece of plywood to hold the tube in place and close the gap but don't pinch the bicycle tube in there. Then inflate. Trust the really old guy who showed me that so many years ago.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:09 PM   #9
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I was using my 6gal home compressor that I use for air tools and filling up tires. It probably is not putting out enough volume.
Did you clean the old rubber from inside the rim??? Scotchbride and kero are your friend


pull valve stem


Heat tire up. nice sunny days are hard to find here right now... more lube

More cfms 6 gallon could do it but bigger compressor would be mo better.


I wouldn't be afraid to run her up to 60 psi as long as valve stem is pulled. (short duration pushes to 60psi)
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:31 PM   #10
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Ratchet strap around the circumference (outside) of the tire. As you tighten the ratchet, it should push the beads out toward the rim.

I haven't needed to do this in many years. I would stop adding air, and release the ratchet as soon as the tire would hold pressure.

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Old 01-21-2013, 05:49 PM   #11
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:24 PM   #12
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go to 3.15 ... guy is long winded
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:20 AM   #13
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dangerous practice

No need to ever use ether or other explosive mixture to seat tire at home.

YOU RISK DEATH OR WORSE WITH ETHER !

Maybe 100 mile from nearest service ^ ,other wise straps, remove valve core and 5 + hp compressor(10cfm) and proper technique will seat any tire .

It might take more than 2 hands and it might take more than 2 tries ,but 3.50-4 to 11r24.5s will seat .

Get someones help , another rider, tire tech ,somebody .
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:38 PM   #14
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I end up taking out the valve stem and using the mechanics compressor at work, industrial size. The front popped right into place.

Thanks guys
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:58 AM   #15
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Ok the rear is being a real pita! Can't get the bead to seat. I tried taking out the valve stem and using a high volume high pressure air and that wouldn't do it.

Any ideas?
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