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Old 01-25-2013, 10:31 PM   #1021
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Back to the 1100. Anyone have any idea how many units their local dealer(s) are getting? Mine said they were getting only one, and they are a large Honda, Kawi, BMW, KTM dealer in the Houston area. I had first dibs, but went for the Duke instead. Call me crazy. Who knows, the Dyna may have to go if the CB is that nice... tomp dd50
When I waa at the New York Motorcycle Show, the cb1100 was a big question mark at the Honda display. They don't know how well it will be received, so they are walking before they run on this bike.This according to a factory rep I chatted with.

Will they be around? I'm sure there will be bikes to be had. This economy is still a bit soft, and it is January still. If you go down to your local Honda dealer and order one, I'm sure it will show up around April. Just in time to ride.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:46 AM   #1022
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I'm no pro here, nor a suspension aficionado, but the bikes I've been buying are uncomfortable, if not dangerous, to ride.

I don't see how the typical ADVrider who has either owned, or owns, some form of dual sport wouldn't have seen the need to change the suspension unless they're buying the largest ones that are sprung to carry their weight. Oh wait... this is the Road Warriors section... oh. That may explain why if y'all are buying big bikes from the get-go.
Mmmm..so the issue isn't the suspension as much as its the size of the bike..bigger than your 500 ninja so it cant possibly be a true adv bike?

If you are buying a new bike and it is dangerous to ride right out of the box..you are doing it wrong
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:47 AM   #1023
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hmmmmmm,,,,
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that along with a Givi Trekker and my elcheapo Cabelas duffel bag ought to get me on the road for a 10,000 miler

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Old 01-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #1024
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at 19 posts, and with that said, I have to ask - are you the new troll account for ADVrider?

Either you happen to be buying the right bikes made for your weight, or you're as skinny and light as the typical anorexic Japanese Teenager most Japanese bikes are made for, or you aren't really serious. Or... you are one of te most conservative riders to have ever ridden.

I've only ever owned one bike that was sprung for my weight (from the time I was young and at 150 pounds to a high of 192 pounds in my adult life), let alone valved or anything else. Seeing as how most of us start out on Jap bikes, most of us have seen the need for suspension mods (although it did take me years to understand what I was seeing).
LOL ..hardly a troll and for the record at this point in my life ( about to turn 63) i'm 5' 7 and weight 177. Although when i started street riding in 1965, I only weighed 103. Been riding 46 years, have owned 40 something motorcycles... Harleys, Hondas, Yamahas, Suzukis, Kawasaki, Triumph, BSA and I raced motocross and enduros for 10 years in the mid 70 s to 80's.I currently own 3 having just sold a 750 Nighthawk to make room for the CB1100 I have on order...but I still have a Honda ST 1300 for touring,a Yamaha FZ1 for sport riding, and a Majesty scooter for running around locally. My wife and I have toured all over the US some in Canada and 5 countries in Europe. I worked in the motorcycle industry for 17 years from 1972 to 1989. I consider myself a very experienced rider and figure somewhere between 850,000 and 1 million miles under my belt. These days I am a conservative rider, but there was a span of about 20 years im suprised I survived because I rode very fast all the time.

With regards to the 19 posts, thats because I was cruising the net for info on the CB1100 and surprisingly this website popped up with the most active discussion on the bike. I read for a few days, then decided I wanted to talk as well, so I joined. I'm not really an ADV rider, they are generally too tall for me, and I no longer ride off road on purpose, but I wih I was about 6'2 so I could ride some of these neat taller bikes. I have tens of thousands of posts on ST-owners and FZ -1 OA and RideOhio websites where I usually frequent.

Im not saying updated suspension wouldnt help some riders, but I am saying, most people could not tell the difference in their daily rides with stock or modified suspension. With regards to the CB 1100 Ive read probably a dozen tests now,and all but one commented about how well the basic stock suspension worked. None of the test riders going around curves or thru esses seemed dangerously out of control in the videos I have seen. The same was true with my FZ1 and the ST 1300. The magazines all commented about how nice the stock Suspension works, but when you go online, some " experts" will tell you the first thing you must do is upgrade the suspension.

Judging from posts above this one I am not the only one who doesn't see a lot of benefit from spending thousands of dollars on suspension mods.

Sorry about the hijack, lets get back to talking about the CB1100.

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Old 01-26-2013, 09:54 AM   #1025
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Ive read probably a dozen tests now,and all but one commented about how well the basic stock suspension worked. None of the test riders going around curves or thru esses seemed dangerously out of control in the videos I have seen.
This is one of the underlying themes that I've picked up on in all of the reading I've done thus far as well. Based on the majority of reviewer comments, for the bike's intended purpose, it sounds like the stock suspension works surprisingly well.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:10 AM   #1026
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It's doubtful that I'd ever toss the bike around any more than the guy in this video. Probably says more about me than about the bike itself.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:29 PM   #1027
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Im not saying updated suspension wouldnt help some riders, but I am saying, most people could not tell the difference in their daily rides with stock or modified suspension.
Not true! These are exactly the people who benefit! Everyone who rides daily and complains about hitting that expansion joint of the freeway, or how the bike dives too much on braking when they hit the same corner or how harsh the ass end is over a particular patch of rough pavement.

Once the suspension is set up for their weight and riding style, you can tell HUGE differences from the compromise that comes stock from the factory.
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:14 PM   #1028
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Not true! These are exactly the people who benefit! Everyone who rides daily and complains about hitting that expansion joint of the freeway, or how the bike dives too much on braking when they hit the same corner or how harsh the ass end is over a particular patch of rough pavement.

Once the suspension is set up for their weight and riding style, you can tell HUGE differences from the compromise that comes stock from the factory.
Hi, I'm new to the forum. I was an interested forum lurker when the CBR250R was introduced. Now I'm interested in the CB1100A and this thread is most interesting. Time to join up.

I put down a deposit at my dealer a few weeks ago. He told me I was #3 in line. That was a bit unexpected.

About people's demand for suspension excellence. In my experience, most riders aren't even aware when their tire pressure is low :-)

Stock suspension does just fine for these folks...
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:31 PM   #1029
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It's doubtful that I'd ever toss the bike around any more than the guy in this video. Probably says more about me than about the bike itself.

OMG that guy was so close to dying in some of those curves on that stock suspension .... A couple of times I was sure he was going to eat it........ .j / k

Why would a manufacturer spend billions of yen developing a bike and then send it out on " dangerous" suspension? You'd have thought they would have discovered how " dangerous" it was when they were doing all the development miles in Japan, Europe and the US. Since its been released in Japan and Australia for 2 years, has there been a rash of accidents and death reported on these? Because I have not read that anywhere.

Seriously if you are not not racing, the suspension should be plenty adequate for 99.9 % of the people that buy this bike.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:15 PM   #1030
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LOL ..hardly a troll and for the record at this point in my life ( about to turn 63) i'm 5' 7 and weight 177. Although when i started street riding in 1965, I only weighed 103. Been riding 46 years, have owned 40 something motorcycles... Harleys, Hondas, Yamahas, Suzukis, Kawasaki, Triumph, BSA and I raced motocross and enduros for 10 years in the mid 70 s to 80's.I currently own 3 having just sold a 750 Nighthawk to make room for the CB1100 I have on order...but I still have a Honda ST 1300 for touring,a Yamaha FZ1 for sport riding, and a Majesty scooter for running around locally. My wife and I have toured all over the US some in Canada and 5 countries in Europe. I worked in the motorcycle industry for 17 years from 1972 to 1989. I consider myself a very experienced rider and figure somewhere between 850,000 and 1 million miles under my belt. These days I am a conservative rider, but there was a span of about 20 years im suprised I survived because I rode very fast all the time.

With regards to the 19 posts, thats because I was cruising the net for info on the CB1100 and surprisingly this website popped up with the most active discussion on the bike. I read for a few days, then decided I wanted to talk as well, so I joined. I'm not really an ADV rider, they are generally too tall for me, and I no longer ride off road on purpose, but I wih I was about 6'2 so I could ride some of these neat taller bikes. I have tens of thousands of posts on ST-owners and FZ -1 OA and RideOhio websites where I usually frequent.

Im not saying updated suspension wouldnt help some riders, but I am saying, most people could not tell the difference in their daily rides with stock or modified suspension. With regards to the CB 1100 Ive read probably a dozen tests now,and all but one commented about how well the basic stock suspension worked. None of the test riders going around curves or thru esses seemed dangerously out of control in the videos I have seen. The same was true with my FZ1 and the ST 1300. The magazines all commented about how nice the stock Suspension works, but when you go online, some " experts" will tell you the first thing you must do is upgrade the suspension.

Judging from posts above this one I am not the only one who doesn't see a lot of benefit from spending thousands of dollars on suspension mods.

Sorry about the hijack, lets get back to talking about the CB1100.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:23 PM   #1031
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As a man who runs in excess of 250 lbs and often has a lot of stuff on my bike, I know that my bike would handle faster, corner stop better if it had better suspension (or if I laid of the french fries for a year or two) seeing as I am not getting suspension and the laying off the french fries is going slowly, I do this other thing callled ADJUST MY ATTITUDE FOR MY VEHICLES LIMITATIONS. That means a little more breaking distance, a little slower in the curves. I still ride plenty quick but no need to drop a knee on every corner. This is a riding bike not a race bike.

In my life it might be me alone, me and a young person, me and an adult or me and an adult and a ton of shit on giant boxes. I am not changing the suspension every time I get on the bike. I have it sprung pretty hard and just adjust my style of riding to the load I am carrying (not to quick with the wife or kids and all you know.. but alone back from the grocery store ? I Just make sure the milk is secure in the case cause if it shifts in a corner your back wheel will do shit you never dreamed it could. Ask me how I know.)

What I would really want for this bike is Hepco and Becker hard case mounts so I could stick my trax boxes (from a tiger 1050 no less) on it and hear the purists cry mercy.
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Seriously if you are not not racing, the suspension should be plenty adequate for 99.9 % of the people that buy this bike.
If all you aspire to is just being "adequate", well then drive the hell on....
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:05 PM   #1033
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This is one of the underlying themes that I've picked up on in all of the reading I've done thus far as well. Based on the majority of reviewer comments, for the bike's intended purpose, it sounds like the stock suspension works surprisingly well.
I couldn't agree more!This bike addresses most every complaint I have with my CB900F.The only thing I need to do is sit on it and check out the ergo's for myself.The more rear set pegs is what I have to be honest with myself about.The 56 year old back may protest too loudly but I'm cautiously optimistic that the CB1100 is my next bike.As for the suspension....C'mon!!!I have never seen so many people looking for any reason to dislike this bike
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:22 PM   #1034
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If all you aspire to is just being "adequate", well then drive the hell on....
No I simply aspire to be on two wheels, upright, and not divorced (again). So far its working for me.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:42 PM   #1035
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If all you aspire to is just being "adequate", well then drive the hell on....
http://www.cb1100f.net/Other/Motorcy...icleCB900F.PDF

These guys were at least "adequate",you run the specs,it's essentially the same damn bike with better rubber,shifting,and yes suspension!!!! The brakes are a far cry better also.I don't think the new CB1100 will do sub 12-sec 1/4 mile runs but I would bet it's close!!!!
This bike was built to look like a late 70's Honda with early 80's perfomance and better braking,fuel injection and ride comfort.Mission accomplished.
It's not meant nor designed to go head to head with a modern superbike
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