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Old 01-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #76
nick949eldo
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Well, I dont think 6500 is way out of line in north america. These things were never imported here and they are rare as chickens teeth here. Yeah, they were low-budget bikes in the past but times are changin and to get one, ya gotta ante up the cash.

They're becoming collector items.
It wasn't so much the price, it was the condition versus the price. Although it sounded great on the videos, there seemed too many minor issues (shocks etc.) and too much wear and eroded paint compared with the mileage on the clock. Was that 7,000+ or 107,000+? Original paint? - perhaps not. Original tank? - probably not. I still think its a lovely bike, but risky at $5000, not $6500.

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Old 01-26-2013, 03:24 AM   #77
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Huub, what about the Civilian models? Do you see those for sale there too ?
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:22 AM   #78
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Huub, what about the Civilian models? Do you see those for sale there too ?
those are pretty rare here too,
pricewise , i dont think they fetch more than a nice military bike

cheers,
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:25 AM   #79
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I only occasionally see a civilian model come up on various classified sites in Italy and Europe. The prices I've seen are 6000-7000 euro !

Maybe I need to rent a big trailer and come to Holland for a while ! lol
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:20 AM   #80
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I pulled the flywheel cover of my Civile today in order to lube the kickstart ratchet mechanism. It was starting to hang up and not let the foot lever retract back to position.

While in there, I noticed that the kickstart return spring coils were creeping over and rubbing up against the drive chain. I checked my parts book to see if I was missing some sort of retainer but there is nothing depicted.

This is a common problem. One of the UK N-Falcone sites has posted a fix that involves removing the kickstart assembly and inserting a special washer to serve as a retainer to keep the spring off the chain. I studied it a little and fashioned a quick fix that works just fine.

I simply tightened a nylon tie around the kickstart hub and through it ran another tie that threads and tightens around the spring coils to hold them back off the chain.

The design of the kickstart assembly is such that the spring cannot be too far out during the downstroke.

This set-up works fine, gives me about a half inch of clearance from the chain and nothing can be seen when the flywheel cover is installed.

10 minute operation.

I have since replaced the nylon ties with stainless steel.


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Old 01-27-2013, 11:26 AM   #81
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On another note, I checked and re-set my valve lash.

There is an unexplained quandary surrounding this operation. In the Guzzi english language service manual, the lash clearances are given as .10mm exhaust, .05mm intake. On the other had, in the italian language manual they give the spec as much looser .20 exhaust, .10 intake.

I set my valve to the loose italian specs and the motor made noticeably more noise. Tick tick tick.

I went back and re-set to the tighter standards (with a loose drag on the feelers). The motor sounds much better but I'll have to check back in a thousand miles to make sure the gap hasnt closed up.

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Old 02-03-2013, 06:16 AM   #82
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Running like a top now.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:16 AM   #83
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I just saw a military version at Ozzie's BMW in Chico, CA. I didn't have a camera and got busy ordering parts and forgot to ask about it. It did look to be a often ridden bike.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:20 AM   #84
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if you are running tight clearances make sure you check very often. these engines tend to be quite hard on the valves.
it is easy to overheat a valve , the too strong valve springs do the rest.

i run big clearances (.20 in and exhaust) and never worried about the noise.
especially because mine has all the police tinwork which reflects all the engine noise.

pretty weird , just found a couple of pics of my nuovo on the ADRrider forum,,
of all places found it in the cafe racer thread.......

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...php?p=13396323 (scroll down , third pic)
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:17 AM   #85
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I'll give those zipties about 5-1/2 seconds in that situation.


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Old 02-03-2013, 07:39 PM   #86
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I'll give those zipties about 5-1/2 seconds in that situation.


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Au contraire, mon ami. It's been working fine for some time now. The nylon ties engage nothing and move smoothly with the kick mechanism. There's not much stress on the straps holding the spring. The ties dont really hit anything while kicking.

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Old 02-07-2013, 04:22 AM   #87
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I have some metal zip ties but decided not to use them when the plastic ones worked just fine. You cannot see them either.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:37 PM   #88
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Hi Everyone, I have one of these wonderful machines (1970 ex Carabinieri model) they are very addictive, it's amazing how much pleasure you can have going quite slowly!
Mine has had 75mph on the clock but is much happier cruising at about 50. Will post some pictures soon
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:42 PM   #89
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Dang. 75 ? If that's real speed were you going on a long, downhill stretch coming out of the Rocky Mountains or the Alps?
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:13 AM   #90
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Dang. 75 ? If that's real speed were you going on a long, downhill stretch coming out of the Rocky Mountains or the Alps?
not that bad , 70-75 is my normal cruising speed on highways.
i fitted a 31 tooth rear sprocket to keep revs ( and vibrations) down.
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