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 01-28-2013, 04:56 PM #6736 jconly Gnarly Adventurer     Joined: Aug 2009 Location: NYC Oddometer: 437 So, my last major ride I took this summer (following the TET tracks and routes) left me with a question that hopefully someone here can help answer. I'm wondering about measuring distances from one point to the other, an how that distance is generated. On my 60CSX, although I forget exactly how, with a track, I could select a point along it, and find a distance between my current location and this point of choice. Is it possible to do this with the Montana? With either a track or a route? I know it can be done by just dropping a pin, but this would give me what I'm assuming is a straight line distance. Is it possible to pick a point on a track and get the distance to that point ALONG the track?
01-28-2013, 07:33 PM   #6737
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 Originally Posted by jconly So, my last major ride I took this summer (following the TET tracks and routes) left me with a question that hopefully someone here can help answer. I'm wondering about measuring distances from one point to the other, an how that distance is generated. On my 60CSX, although I forget exactly how, with a track, I could select a point along it, and find a distance between my current location and this point of choice. Is it possible to do this with the Montana? With either a track or a route? I know it can be done by just dropping a pin, but this would give me what I'm assuming is a straight line distance. Is it possible to pick a point on a track and get the distance to that point ALONG the track?
Finding a distance is always going to be 'as the crow flies' unless you calculate it as a route, as far as I know. You can look at a track in Mapsource or Basecamp and extrapolate the distance but I don't think you can do it on a gps.
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01-28-2013, 07:38 PM   #6738
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Originally Posted by christian
from the "FAQ"

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 Originally Posted by Emmbeedee Track Manager - Options. Provide a Setting tab option on the main Track Manager screen to: "Show All Tracks on Map", "Hide All Tracks on Map", "Delete All Tracks".

still no way of doing this?
Not even goofing around with the XML on the unit itself?
Not that I am aware of. 'Show All Tracks' would not be useful to me, though 'Hide All Tracks' would. I find I waste time occasionally trying to figure out which is set to 'Show On Map', and having to click one after the other gets old real fast.

I was toying with the Montana recently and when I turned it on and cleared the track, I could still see a track on the screen so I looked in the Track Manager and found one which was set to Show On Map. I set it to Hide on Map, verified it was no longer showing then shut the Montana off.

Then I started the Montana up again, and that same track was once again showing on the map screen. A Zombie map, obviously. Once I archived it, it remained hidden.

No idea what it was about that track that kept it showing up... But I wasted time looking for it, on a couple of occasions.
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01-28-2013, 07:52 PM   #6739
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 Originally Posted by Emmbeedee Not that I am aware of. 'Show All Tracks' would not be useful to me, though 'Hide All Tracks' would. I find I waste time occasionally trying to figure out which is set to 'Show On Map', and having to click one after the other gets old real fast.
It would also be nice if the Show/Hide bit coming from PC would be preserved. This is very important for Events where promoter set its for variious tracks.

Another choice should be to order by proximity or order by Alfa-numeric
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01-29-2013, 01:37 AM   #6740
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 Originally Posted by Albie My unit won't even allow you to navigate the route if it has more then 50 via points. You can look at it on the map, but you don't get the GO button.
You won't get the 'GO' button either when attempting to navigate a track if the number of track points are more than 10,000.

In Basecamp, you can double click in the map window on any route or track and a property window will open. The 'Summary' field for a track will show the total number of points it contains. On a route it will show the total number of via points it has.

Basecamp is your friend!

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01-29-2013, 04:00 AM   #6741
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 Originally Posted by dlh62c Its not the mileage, but the 50 via point limit. Check to see if your route is under 50 via points. daryl
My routes don't have via points they are a to b
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01-29-2013, 04:31 AM   #6742
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 Originally Posted by Emmbeedee I do that too, navigating with the gps when I already know the best route. I find I get a better understanding of if/how it works, and if I can trust it or not.
Bingo. Exactly that. Been messing with these things for 20 years now, always found the best way to 'get to know' a unit was to make it do things. Take you to the grocery store. Over to your buddy's place.

I usually scan ahead once aroute is plotted by the unit, just to see if it's going what is, to me, the 'right' way. So damn tired on Friday, I didn't do it, mainly because I knew where I was going. Just happy that I caught this little issue, will be interested to see if your unit does the same thing. It's always been my impression that gps units are like snowflakes when it comes to routing.
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01-29-2013, 04:32 AM   #6743
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 Originally Posted by Emmbeedee Finding a distance is always going to be 'as the crow flies' unless you calculate it as a route, as far as I know. You can look at a track in Mapsource or Basecamp and extrapolate the distance but I don't think you can do it on a gps.
Could you not do this in route planner on the menu screen?
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01-29-2013, 04:36 AM   #6744
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by TravellingStrom My routes don't have via points they are a to b
A route will always contain at least two via points. In your route, Point A is via point 1 and Point B is via point 2. You can add more, but they can total no more than 50.

daryl

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01-29-2013, 07:11 AM   #6745
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 Originally Posted by Countdown It would also be nice if the Show/Hide bit coming from PC would be preserved. This is very important for Events where promoter set its for variious tracks. Another choice should be to order by proximity or order by Alfa-numeric
Agreed...
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 01-29-2013, 07:48 AM #6746 ducnek Satisfied customer     Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Rooster Poot Tennessee Oddometer: 1,017 Got my new Montana, man have I got a lot to learn. I watched the tutorials and loaded a route to my 600, when it goes to calculate the preloaded route I get this: "Route Calculation Error: Maps do not have routable roads in this area" I have installed City Nav NA, I think I read what causes this in this thread but can't find it now. Please have mercy and help this noob out. __________________ Calmer than you are.
 01-29-2013, 07:52 AM #6747 Emoto Sure, why not?     Joined: Feb 2004 Location: SE Mass Oddometer: 19,202 You sure you have CN installed on your Montana? And enabled? View the map screen, touch the little 3 horizontal line icon, then setup map, then Map Information select map, then see if CN in on your list and enabled. __________________ Eventual Master of the Obvious 2005 R1200GS | 2013 R1200GSW | SOHC4 208 | DoD 2032 | BMWMOA | BMWRA | YB
01-29-2013, 08:07 AM   #6748
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 Originally Posted by Emoto You sure you have CN installed on your Montana? And enabled? View the map screen, touch the little 3 horizontal line icon, then setup map, then Map Information select map, then see if CN in on your list and enabled.

Nope it's not on the list. How do I get it there?
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01-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #6749
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 Originally Posted by Drif10 Bingo. Exactly that. Been messing with these things for 20 years now, always found the best way to 'get to know' a unit was to make it do things. Take you to the grocery store. Over to your buddy's place. I usually scan ahead once aroute is plotted by the unit, just to see if it's going what is, to me, the 'right' way. So damn tired on Friday, I didn't do it, mainly because I knew where I was going. Just happy that I caught this little issue, will be interested to see if your unit does the same thing. It's always been my impression that gps units are like snowflakes when it comes to routing.
Well Jim, both my Montana and Nuvi 780 looked like they saw some kind of junction at Metcalf street but they didn't say to get off the 417 to get to it. I can see how it would be confusing, though.

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01-29-2013, 08:16 AM   #6750
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 Originally Posted by ducnek Nope it's not on the list. How do I get it there?

Nevermind I think I figured it out! D'oh!
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