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Old 01-16-2013, 12:11 PM   #316
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I got the rear swingarm off today. The swingarm bolts were frozen and there was a 1/4" layer of greasy roadmung over everything, but with the proper amount of carefully chosen profanity it finally let loose. I of course had to remove all the levers and rods for the rear brake as well.
Without all the crap in place I can now see on the left rear "loop" the remains of a sawed off bracket...



Would that be the remains of a siren bracket?
There a rubber bumper that mounts to one little bracket that keeps the centerstand from rattling. That may have been it.

You can see it here:
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:16 PM   #317
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Yup

Greg B has a nifty writeup of the siren bracket. It's on the top of the loop, these remnants are on the bottom. Oh well...

The good news is the cam and crank all checked out nicely. The bearings are worn and did their job. They'll now be residing in the big trashbin in the sky... bearings and seals were always on the list.
I'm ALMOST to the point where I can start putting stuff back together.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:05 PM   #318
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:40 PM   #319
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Mystery Switch

Located just forward of the throttle, down below where you would REALLY have to look for it is this momentary.
Not very accessible. Two wires Blk/Blu & Br. that jump back into the harness. I thought it must be the horn but it doesn't go there. What could it be? It doesn't show up anywhere. Police thing?

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Old 01-29-2013, 05:51 PM   #320
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Located just forward of the throttle, down below where you would REALLY have to look for it is this momentary.
Not very accessible. Two wires Blk/Blu & Br. that jump back into the harness. I thought it must be the horn but it doesn't go there. What could it be? It doesn't show up anywhere. Police thing?

Starter button. Or at least it is on my 74 Cali.

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Old 01-29-2013, 06:30 PM   #321
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It doesn't seem beefy enough. It's like 18-16 gauge wire. I thought it must be the horn....
I'm not aware of a relay anywhere?

There, underneath the master cylinder.

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:45 PM   #322
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My favorite description

Moto Guzzi Riding Position


the large "police" or California handlebar for Eldorado, Ambassador. Positions your hands for a riding position similar to that of a roto-tiller.

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:12 PM   #323
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It doesn't seem beefy enough. It's like 18-16 gauge wire. I thought it must be the horn....
I'm not aware of a relay anywhere?

There, underneath the master cylinder.
Nick is correct. Starter button wiring. Blue/blk - power from fuse block, brown - power to the relay. It doesn't need to be any "beefier" since there is a relay mounted back under the voltage regulator.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:24 PM   #324
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Thanks

I appreciate your input.
The button doesn't show on any of the parts dios that I have.
I've been debating replacing the wire harness but it seems rather specific to the bike.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:46 PM   #325
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I appreciate your input.
The button doesn't show on any of the parts dios that I have.
I've been debating replacing the wire harness but it seems rather specific to the bike.
The starter button is shown with other electrical equpment, not with the handlebars and controls where you'd expect it. It's #55 on Tavola/Plate 17 of the spare parts catalog:
http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/m...og_850_1ed.pdf

Greg Bender sells excellent replacement harnesses - every single piece to replicate the original harness.
http://thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/f...ng_harness.htm
He also offers a harness to add headlight relays as well, something Guzzi never had.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:21 AM   #326
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Thumbs up on Greg Benders harness, I replaced a lot of wire with his on my 74, they are first class and he has installation instructions on his web site that are top notch.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:39 AM   #327
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Ah the old starter button, now I notice that this is not all it seems in Guzzi world, when I got my 70 Ambo I noticed when researching on the web etc, that my bike never had one, I mentioned it over on my thread here... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=841764
So I found and bought one from ebayland, and had intended to fit it at a later date. But, it would seem I had made a basic error, most of the info on the WWW, is from American sources, but my bike is an Italian home market bike, and as such has a few subtle differences, probably because they wanted to use up parts from older models.
My bike has a starter ignition switch, just like a car, turn it over and it starts no push button needed, if you look closely you will also see other things, rear light, seat pattern, carb clamps.

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:38 AM   #328
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Ah the old starter button, now I notice that this is not all it seems in Guzzi world, when I got my 70 Ambo I noticed when researching on the web etc, that my bike never had one, I mentioned it over on my thread here... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=841764
So I found and bought one from ebayland, and had intended to fit it at a later date. But, it would seem I had made a basic error, most of the info on the WWW, is from American sources, but my bike is an Italian home market bike, and as such has a few subtle differences, probably because they wanted to use up parts from older models.
My bike has a starter ignition switch, just like a car, turn it over and it starts no push button needed, if you look closely you will also see other things, rear light, seat pattern, carb clamps.

Wanna sell it? Mine is REALLY crusty and it looks like I'm going to have to cut it off the bars. The Allen head is stripped.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:20 AM   #329
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You would really be better off getting a new one from here...

http://www.mgcycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=959

Cheaper than me posting to the US, and you know it will work Ok when you fit it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:12 PM   #330
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The switch on V7 Sports can also start like a car, by turning past the "run" setting, but it has a starter button as well. I am not sure if my Eldo does it too.
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