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Old 01-30-2013, 02:43 PM   #73306
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excellent Peg lowering kit

Wanting to lower the stock pegs on my DR, I contacted Bob at southchathamtackle.com. The guys were really nice and helpful...and I got the kit two days after I ordered it! The craftmanship is first class, and the price is comparable with other kits...a bit lower than some. I would sure recommend them
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:44 PM   #73307
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:47 PM   #73308
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Mine has the spray-on liner, probably about 5 or 6 coats. It helps, but not as much as you would think. The skid plate is still too reflective for sound waves. It's not vibration noises, it's all the noises the engine normally makes that are being reflected up at you instead of towards the ground. At first I was trying to find things to quiet it down, finally decided it isn't a big deal and I just ignore it now. I would like to find a really porous foam (think stripper pad on a floor buffer) to put in there and will try it if I find one. I just don't want anything that will hold water, it still needs to drain well.

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i'm leaning towards dynamat extreme. i wonder what washing machines use to sound deaden on the pricy model?
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:48 PM   #73309
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i have no idea what that is???
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:51 PM   #73310
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I have always cut strips of HD innertubes and squeezed them between the frame and skidplate on all my bikes. I think that much of what people are hearing is the plate vibrating harmonically. This may not be enough for some of you. The DR650 is the quietest bike I have ever owned, I've never had a streetbike so I can't compare what others perceive as noisey.

You definitely want closed cell foam,(like GSF suggests) especially offraod. The bufferpad will soon be adobe. Think about using a "pool noodle" or foam pipe insulation instead.
have tubes between on the front of the plate. yes it's harmonics and reflective sound. don't expect no sound just muffle what is there.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:53 PM   #73311
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I also use inner tubes to dampen vibration but like any other sane or intelligent person I wear earplugs, so the noise doesn't really bother me.
well of course, but if i can quite things even more the better. there is a reason why very expensive cars are quite. it's work to do so. nothing wrong with that.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:57 PM   #73312
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i'm guilty of it, but most everyone hates rants...just give em unbaised opinions, feedback and research findings.

i see a rant and my brain turns off on the info...say what?


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As a sound recording pro ... I agree. I've done many many similar rants on ADV ... most riders just ignore ... if falls on "deaf ears" .

Everybody has an excuse, like, "... plugs are too uncomfortable", " ... they don't fit my ear canals". "... too expensive". " ... too much trouble to put in and out". Yada Yada. Got an issue? Get a tissue!

As you say, hearing loss is no joke. And yes ... it's the low freq buffeting from wind noise that does damage to the tiny Scilia around the ear drum. First you loose ability to hear high frequencies ... makes understanding speech in a noisy place hard. Goes downhill from there.

So easy to protect your hearing. At least wear them on long rides ... and learn how to insert them properly .... many riders do it wrong.

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Old 01-30-2013, 03:17 PM   #73313
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just talked to tech at dynamat.

solution is 1st stick dynamat extreme to skid plate and then dynalinner 1/2" foam to that. takes care of both sources of noise.
warm up skidplate 1st with hairdryer then stick.

he knows bikes and skid plates.

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Old 01-30-2013, 03:18 PM   #73314
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have tubes between on the front of the plate. yes it's harmonics and reflective sound. don't expect no sound just muffle what is there.
I used some heater hose between the skid plate and frame IIRC 3/4" ID. Once cut open it fits around the frame rails (with a bit of trimming) and stays in place when you take the plate off to change oil etc. Quiets things down quite a bit.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:38 PM   #73315
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This is a common question. Guys think riding with ear buds they are OK ... and they are partly right! You are protecting your hearing from low frequency wind damage.

BUT ... if you crank up the Tunes ... this will also take a toll on your hearing over time.

At speed we tend to listen LOUDer and LOUDer as the day goes on ... and we've all read the studies about the Japanese teenagers going deaf from listening to their Walkman/Nano too LONG and too LOUD. Tens of thousands affected in Japan.

With hearing damage its not just db levels ... it's duration of the abuse and proximity or source of the sound to your ear drum. Ear buds are in close proximity to your ear drum ... and more worrisome ... they SEAL up your ear canal providing NO venting ...which is critical to prevent damage. Loud Ear Buds inserted ALL THE WAY IN ... really can hammer your ear drums when cranked up to max.

In my industry very few use Ear Buds for this reason. We use open air headphones ... and take them off for loud transients or gun shots.
If you listen riding ... try to keep the volume down. Over time you'll get used to a lower level.
I've already got an SMH5 on my "to buy" list. Once I add that to the side of the helmet, will I be alright with the disposable foam ear plugs you get at the hardware store?
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:26 PM   #73316
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Chucksklrst; I have a Laminar windscreen on my DR 650. I put it on back in 2010, before Procycle was listing it. I like mine very much. Keep the wind off your chest. I rode from Seattle to San Diego in February 2011, with snow part of the way so it was tested. I did drill and mounted with some plastic nuts and bolts with rubber gromets between the screen and headlight surround as the 3M stuff didn't hold it as well as I wanted. I am 72 and the screen does make long rides a lot nicer. I would post photos however I must admit I have no idea how.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:58 PM   #73317
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Chucksklrst; I have a Laminar windscreen on my DR 650. I put it on back in 2010, before Procycle was listing it. I like mine very much. Keep the wind off your chest. I rode from Seattle to San Diego in February 2011, with snow part of the way so it was tested. I did drill and mounted with some plastic nuts and bolts with rubber gromets between the screen and headlight surround as the 3M stuff didn't hold it as well as I wanted. I am 72 and the screen does make long rides a lot nicer. I would post photos however I must admit I have no idea how.
How about sending me some photos to Chucksklrst@aol.com I need close ups of front and side views and a few from the cockpit. Thanks
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:23 PM   #73318
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Looking at how to post photos, I guess I need to have a photo host to be able to post photos. I don't see a way to up load photos direct from my hard drive. am I mistaken?
A lot of guys here use Smug Mug for photo hosting. It's owned/operated by site owner Baldy and run by his kids. It's not FREE but is the best, IMHO ... and helps keep ADVrider on the air. It's about $30 a year (IIRC) Every little bit helps.

You can also use Google's Picasa hosting site for pics. Free but limited. I use both.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:34 PM   #73319
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I've already got an SMH5 on my "to buy" list. Once I add that to the side of the helmet, will I be alright with the disposable foam ear plugs you get at the hardware store?
Most times those hardware story plugs are junk ... and end up being expensive and they HURT! Try Howard Leight Razor Lite ear plugs. 200 pair to a box ... about $25. The Razor's are soft and smooth, attenuate 32 db of noise. I can wear them all day without discomfort. I prefer UNcorded version and if you keep your hands clean you can re-use them at least a half dozen rides. Once wet, they are ruined. Toss them.

http://www.howardleight.com/earplugs/laser-lite
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:51 PM   #73320
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Most times those hardware story plugs are junk ... and end up being expensive and they HURT! Try Howard Leight Razor Lite ear plugs. 200 pair to a box ... about $25. The Razor's are soft and smooth, attenuate 32 db of noise. I can wear them all day without discomfort. I prefer UNcorded version and if you keep your hands clean you can re-use them at least a half dozen rides. Once wet, they are ruined. Toss them.

http://www.howardleight.com/earplugs/laser-lite
Half a dozen rides, figure three uses per pair...yeah, I can swing 600 rides for $25. Even if I commuted to work every single week day of the year, I'd still get two years out of $25. I could live with that lol. Thanks for cluing me in!
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