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Old 01-29-2013, 10:14 AM   #31
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Good god man!! you'll have the vintage boys "Tsking" and there's no greater show of displeasure than a Tsk! I know I was on the receiving end of one for having an incorrectly marked timing cover on my 500 Ariel.
Blimey Rob, that must make me the son of satan with what I am doing to my NortonI bet there is a fair chance they could fall off their Tsk, when I turn up at a VMCC day. If I ever get it finished
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:23 AM   #32
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I was on the receiving end of one for having an incorrectly marked timing cover on my 500 Ariel.
VH instead of HT was it?
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:24 AM   #33
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You'll get a "Tsk" followed by a deep sigh and a shake of the head for what you're doing
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:27 AM   #34
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VH instead of HT was it?
Worse than that it was a VB cover The Matchless tank didn't go down too well either.

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Old 01-29-2013, 10:35 AM   #35
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Worse than that it was a VB cover The Matchless tank didn't go down too well either.
At least it didn't say "Square Four"!

Mine says "HT", but it lies!
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:52 AM   #36
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It would probably come down to the host organization's rules as to eligability.
A pre-unit Enfield could be considered "spirit-of" pre-65 just as many of the new aftermarket frame and bodywork bits sold today are, assuming the component was as "back in the day".
Judging by all the Renthal handlebars you might be right.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:04 AM   #37
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Pictures from today at the Talmag trial...




I think this is a 1977 or so Indian Enfield? Looks just like the one I am building up. AHRMA calls them Premier Heavyweight bikes.Dave
In North America you can probably show up with a fuel-injected, disc braked, monoshock Enfield and ride! Pre-65 trials bikes are uncommon and turnouts are nothing like in the UK or the continent. "Rules" as such for these bikes are a bit more loose.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:28 PM   #38
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In North America you can probably show up with a fuel-injected, disc braked, monoshock Enfield and ride! Pre-65 trials bikes are uncommon and turnouts are nothing like in the UK or the continent. "Rules" as such for these bikes are a bit more loose.
No I dont think you could show up with disk brakes etc. Interesting is that in the pictures I had seen Concentric carburetors and lots of heavy frame mods. Not in keeping with Pre 65. Anyway not my problem or concern here is my 1977-78 or so Enfield 350 mocked up not yet ready for competition motorcycle.
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Beautiful old trials bikes, thanks for the show!
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Beautiful machine you have there. Ariels are lovely things.

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At least it didn't say "Square Four"!

Mine says "HT", but it lies!
I know it's been posted before and is advertising but the bikes and vibe from this clip really sums up the classic trials in the UK for me




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No I dont think you could show up with disk brakes etc. Interesting is that in the pictures I had seen Concentric carburetors and lots of heavy frame mods. Not in keeping with Pre 65.
The exaggerated point was that the rules are much more lax in North America."Pre-65" isn't even necessarilly the class name or cutoff period for older classic trials bikes and the rules vary depending on the organization you are competing with.Your Mikuni carb will probably be fine, along with other later components as the rules are no where as tight as in UK or European classic events. Enjoy!
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No I dont think you could show up with disk brakes etc. Interesting is that in the pictures I had seen Concentric carburetors and lots of heavy frame mods. Not in keeping with Pre 65. Anyway not my problem or concern here is my 1977-78 or so Enfield 350 mocked up not yet ready for competition motorcycle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxoVTJxcbg
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Looking pretty good there Dave, have you an ally tank too?
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:55 AM   #43
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1959 Scottish six day trial....

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The exaggerated point was that the rules are much more lax in North America."Pre-65" isn't even necessarilly the class name or cutoff period for older classic trials bikes and the rules vary depending on the organization you are competing with.
My experience as well. The rules can vary from club to club and regionally, but I have usually found them very accomodating considering the small number of pre-65 bikes around. Even the lighter weight Cubs, Bantams and older Spanish bikes are disappearing as the machines (and their riders!) age.

I look forward to seeing one if the big UK classic events some day. Thanks for the great pics Kevin.
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Looking pretty good there Dave, have you an ally tank too?[/QUOTE

I have an English tank off some competition Enfield (Fury)? Its steel and is maybe 2 US gallons and shaped like the original only much smaller. The motorcycle will be heavy no doubt but that’s what riders had back in the day as I understand. I am planning on alloy fenders but that’s about my only concession to lightening the motorcycle except of course removing road gear and unnecessary brackets and tabs at least in its initial inception.
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