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Old 01-20-2013, 10:46 PM   #76
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I'd like to research more on a diesel swap. I'm sure ill be ready for a new motor In a year or so. 10 mpg is going to be bad but luckily it wo t be a daily driver.
it's been done before... someone makes a GM to toyota tranny adapter for V-8 engine swaps.

Cummins are made to go into most anything, an adapter for GM is not much a stretch for Cummins . 6BT is what's in my 12 Cummins 2500 dodge. too heavy for FJ60 .. front end would need to be beefed up, sag too bad.

4BT is a 4cylinder instead of 6, much lighter... no lack of HP even wth 4BT.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:40 AM   #77
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:42 AM   #78
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This is my 68 on a 84 frame streched 12'' with a Cummins 4BT
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:48 AM   #79
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it's been done before... someone makes a GM to toyota tranny adapter for V-8 engine swaps.

Cummins are made to go into most anything, an adapter for GM is not much a stretch for Cummins . 6BT is what's in my 12 Cummins 2500 dodge. too heavy for FJ60 .. front end would need to be beefed up, sag too bad.

4BT is a 4cylinder instead of 6, much lighter... no lack of HP even wth 4BT.
The 4BT is around 700 pounds, depending on how you dress it up. If I remember correctly, that is about what a fully dressed 454 big block weighs. That is about what the 2F weighs in the FJ60.

So, for weight...

4BT = 454 = 2F
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:58 AM   #80
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One of the most popular diesel options has been the Cummins 4BT conversion. The 4BT makes a mild 105 hp but a whopping 265 ft/lbs of torque and even at this stock rating, this diesel powers even a large, sprung over or tall 80-series Land Cruiser wagons with larger tires very well. That said, with the simple turn of some screws, it can easily make over 160 hp and over 400 ft/lbs of torque, and deliver just as much power as the early Dodge Cummins 6 cyl pickup-truck diesels, but with some loss of mileage and some slightly increased noise. Quoting Enzo Ferrari, "horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." This 4 cyl engine delivers more torque than most V8s and this engine will literally idle over anything, which also reduces the need for deep gearing for trucks that are offroaded.

In most cases, at least 4" of lift is required to fit the engine in as it is deep. A five speed manual or overdrive-automatic transmission is required to achieve highway speeds and maximum fuel economy for street driven rigs. Approximate fuel mileage is in the mid to low 20s (though we have had some reports of as high as 27 mpg when driven cautiously and/or on rigs with 33" tires or smaller). Many aftermarket upgrades are also available for this engine as they use many of the same parts as the Dodge Cummins 6 cyl engines of the same era.

This is a 4 cylinder, direct-injected turbo diesel. At their stock rating, they produces about the same amount of noise as a "generation 1" Dodge Cummins (1989-1993 with the early body style), which is noticable but not massivly overbearing like many of the later Dodges. We do recommend some noise provisions (good weather stripping and/or soundproofing) for any rig that will be daily-style driven. Most 4BT's come from Frito-Lay-type P30 bread vans that were converted from gasoline to diesel sometime in the late 80's or early 90's by Cummins under their "Cummins Repower Program." There are no other major sources for these engines other than industrial stationary or tractor applications and these will not work in an automotive application. http://www.shoumatoff.com/~jeremiah/...ins/index.html



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Old 01-27-2013, 08:21 AM   #81
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For those considering this swap, you may want to check out this link. At the bottom, they talk about the 4BT. I know this is for the Jeep, but maybe it applies? I was researching this for my Willys pickup.

http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticl...r/viewall.html
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:23 AM   #82
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For those considering this swap, you may want to check out this link. At the bottom, they talk about the 4BT. I know this is for the Jeep, but maybe it applies? I was researching this for my Willys pickup.

http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticl...r/viewall.html
My coworker has a 4BT powered CJ7 Jeep. Its unique, but very obnoxious.
I'll have to send him this link
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:40 PM   #83
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This one has awesome patina!

If I owned this one, I'd freshen up the entire drive line, but would NOT consider re-spraying it.

At most it would get a clear coat or linseed treatment.

:cheers:

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Well, it may have good patina but it's a bitch to live with, esp. when you drive it in the winter. Last time I did that, I had a small snowdrift on the dash.

Right now the frame is sitting on jackstands but pretty in black and awaiting axle overhaul. Upon which time I will install those axles with new OME suspension kit. Motor is fresh from cover to pan, trans/xfr resealed and installed with o-hauled driveshafts.

At which point I will be out of money and you'll get some of your wish whereupon the body will go back on, looking much as it did before.

The bodywork will come another day. Rear sill is toast and the doors are not far behind, but the cost to fix it all is not in the budget. Someday...
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:16 PM   #84
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Hey Duke,

anytime you want to twist some wrenches on a fj40, I am just down the road in Hygiene. I have a 76 fj40 restore in process with a Cummins 4bt conversion.


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some sweet LCs in here!

I saw 2 really clean FJ40s riding around near Estes Park yesterday. Until moving here I didn't even know they existed without rust! Someday I'd love to have a nice FJ40 or 45 pick up, they just have a huge coolness factor.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/03...45-pickup.html
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:15 AM   #85
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Great thread. I have a late friend who had one of those in the '70's. It would go anywhere. Great memories.

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Old 01-30-2013, 05:15 PM   #86
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I will take a Hardtop, Vinyl Top and a Wagon. It would be a smidge above $10K.



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Old 01-30-2013, 08:04 PM   #87
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Please move aside...



I don't know... here are the pictures I promised. The first two pics are a '73 soft top, 3 on the floor, with the PTO winch option, the tub is pretty much gone. The floor looks like swiss cheese, and the tailgate is almost non existant. The third is a '70 hard top with a 3 on the tree, vaccum operated front drive option. The hard top is pretty rotten, the flip up half of the hatch is going to fall off soon. Yes, I know the grill is upside down... Both were farm trucks, so relatively low mile, but very hard miles. They're project trucks, just waiting for the right time...



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Old 02-19-2013, 04:45 PM   #88
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My cruiser is getting closer to being on the road.


Been trying to find out what the largest tires I can put on are with the stock suspension?
Thinking about BFG ATs 31 x 9.5 but not sure of the fit.
235 75 15s on there now.
The Toyota forums are deep to navigate as most people have gone with 33s and lifts.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:04 PM   #89
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Reformed and former Cruiser-head of ill-repute. I still dream occasionally. Had two '79 FJ's oh so many moons ago. Traded 'em in for ATV's. Great thread! Thanks
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:33 PM   #90
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I get to use a bunch of LCs at work. Unkillable.

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