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Old 01-31-2013, 09:06 AM   #31
edeslaur
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I have the liner and controller. Screaming deal for $149+tax. I also bought the Tourmaster coily SAE cord, works great with it. I decided to wire the included harness rather than running through my factory powerport. The Tourmaster BMW adapter and SAE/COAX adapters also work with the liner/controller.

I've used it in 32 degree weather for my 87 mile commute and it's been much nicer than doing it without gear. It's good enough I don't even put my FirstGear insulated pants on whereas without the jacket, no pants meant an hour of shivering once I got to work.

Liner works as billed, however, on my K1200S, the back of my neck gets uncomfortably warm on Max. I'm not sure this is position-related, when I sit up straighter, it doesn't seem to make it much better. It's tolerable on High, but still a tad toasty. The jacket by itself, without heat, is actually a pretty good liner. The first few trips I hadn't run the leads correctly from the controller to the liner and it wasn't heating, tho the controller was on. Don't judge me, it's not as straightforward as you might think.

For some reason, the SAE connector is on the right side of the liner, while all BMWs I've ever had have the powerport on the left. This means the cable would need to cross over me while I sit, chafing the paint on the tank. I ran the harness provided with the liner to the right side of the bike, which is unfortunate as the Tourmaster coily cord came undone from the liner during some spirited riding (hanging off) and proceeded to melt black goo all over my pipe. COAX connectors, really? The Tourmaster coily cord ($9 at RockyMountain ATV) has black rubber over a much more heat-resistant clear inner core, so while the black melted off, no copper was exposed and no fuse harmed - Go Tourmaster!!

The controller is intended to go inside the jacket which is just nonsensical since you'd have to pull over to make adjustments. I ran it through the d-ring on the right side/outside of my First Gear Ranier jacket so I can adjust and monitor it. The Ranier jacket has grommets in the left zippered pocket to allow wire pass through, but since the heated liner has the powerport on the right, I can't keep the controller in my left jacket pocket without having to disconnect/reconnect from the jacket it every time I unzip the darn thing.

My first heated jacket, still figuring out wire routing so it doesn't chew up my paint but also stays connected when I'm hanging off the corners on my way to work or home.

So, some issues, but for 1/4 the price of the competition (with controller), it's hard to complain.

PS: Pics of your installs welcome. I'll upload some when I have time.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:41 AM   #32
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The controller with the jacket made it a bargain. Time will tell. In the 55 degree garage, the IR thermometer got to 103 on the sleeves on max setting. For the most part the heat panels all read between 98 and 100 degrees on max. On max it never feels too hot. I also noted by testing the wiring- gloves connections in the sleeves are always live so they must be wired directly to the main connection. I find if my gloves are plugged in without the controller tuned on- the gloves go to max heat. Gerbing has a jacket with a different connector for gloves and auxiliary. Cyclegear salemans swore that Gerbings made the microwire internals and connectors for Hotwired. I have not been able to find info anywhere on the web about this. In looking at the two jackets side by side- there are several similarities. Hotwired label is same place on chest. Label print on inside same as Gerbing does. Wiring is definitely different. So I think the salesman was full of it. Also no lifetime warranty on hotwired- enough said.

Heated collar and sleeves are nice. Really cuts down on the cold air around he neck.

There are no clear directions on the connections for the controller. The controller sits on the right side of the jacket and once zipped up you can feel it press against you. Also need to drape wire to left side of bike since mine was already wired to this side. Guess I could change the lead to the right side. All other makes seem to be on the left side.
Another reviewer also commented you need to unzip outside jacket and inside liner to access the controls. Haven't figured out how to move this controller outside my jacket yet.


Looks very similar to Venture Heats jacket and controller. Description of glove connection even matches. Is a 83 watt same as their jacket. They seem to be a reputable company.

http://www.ventureheat.com/p-419-12v...ket-liner.aspx

Nice testing!

I have the First Gear heated jacket, the 90w version. Although I don't get to use it much here, it does get pretty warm. I was wondering about the Sedici stuff. I sold one jacket to a customer and he returned it, saying it did not get warm enough. I don't know if it was just him, or the gear. I like the empirical results you got.
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