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Old 01-30-2013, 11:28 AM   #136
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Mazda 3 hatch meets those criteria.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Power...or&srchtyp=ymm

Pretty sure the Mazda Speed 3 does as well.


THAT thing is a little missile, it weighs like 9 pounds and has a turbo. A friend of mien has one, I manged to break the front wheels loose at 35-40mph in 2nd gear accelerating off an on ramp
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:53 PM   #137
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Pretty sure the Mazda Speed 3 does as well.


THAT thing is a little missile, it weighs like 9 pounds and has a turbo. A friend of mien has one, I manged to break the front wheels loose at 35-40mph in 2nd gear accelerating off an on ramp
I test drove a Speed3.

Man! I could see having issues with my wallet in that car.

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:14 PM   #138
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Pretty sure the Mazda Speed 3 does as well.


THAT thing is a little missile, it weighs like 9 pounds and has a turbo. A friend of mien has one, I manged to break the front wheels loose at 35-40mph in 2nd gear accelerating off an on ramp
The Speed 3 gets pretty low mileage in use, something like 19 mpg.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:49 PM   #139
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This is for a middle age woman to drive as a daily work car. No Speed 3, STi, or even focus ST need to apply.
Didn't make it out to the VW store today. Still wondering if they would be a nightmare to try to own for 200K miles. Whatever we buy now will most likely be my kids first car in 3 & 5 years time.
The four ford dealers I contacted send me three emails a day. And they wonder why I didn't give them a good phone number?
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:20 PM   #140
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I will echo prev remarks. Check out the 3. We put 65k on ours in 2.5 yrs before trading it in on a larger car. Got good mpg and fun to drive. The current models front styling is meh however.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:25 PM   #141
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The Speed 3 gets pretty low mileage in use, something like 19 mpg.
Not what my friend is saying, but yes, its going to drink more gas than a NA Mazda three just by virtue of the turbo.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/speed%203/2012

I love that site, my friend says hers is getting like high 20s and that would be mostly stop and go light to light.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:30 PM   #142
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:53 PM   #144
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T VW store today. Still wondering if they would be a nightmare to try to own for 200K miles.
while i like the gti i think the chances of it making 200k trouble free miles is maybe 3 in 10. The tacoma feels like 9 in 10 so if reliability is the main issue honda or toyota
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:27 AM   #146
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Wife's brother had a VW that was such a lemon, he got his money back. I'm not sure if the wife is willing to risk it. That said, I looked at them online, and found the jetta sportwagon as well. I do think we will go check them out at least.

I'm a TDI junky... Love the diesel VW's
Not a huge Gasser VW fan although I'm sure they are fine. I'd just choose something else if I was burning Gasoline.

Plan on keeping both of ours past 400K
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:04 PM   #147
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Wife's brother had a VW that was such a lemon, he got his money back. I'm not sure if the wife is willing to risk it. That said, I looked at them online, and found the jetta sportwagon as well. I do think we will go check them out at least.
I've had 4 VW's:

-85 Rabbit Convert - 70k miles in 3 years, burned out the clutch (my fault), otherwise no problems.

-96 Passat TDI - 30k miles in 1 year, no problems

-04 Phaeton, the most complicated car they ever made - 50k miles in 3 years (loved it so much I went 14k over on the lease), no problems

-12 Jetta SportWagen TDI - 3k miles in 6 months, no problems so far.

YMMV, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:32 PM   #148
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-04 Phaeton, the most complicated car they ever made - 50k miles in 3 years (loved it so much I went 14k over on the lease), no problems
Wow. I still wonder about finding a used W12, if they haven't all been lit on fire by now.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:51 PM   #149
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-04 Phaeton

-12 Jetta
How does one go from a Phaeton to a Jetta?
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:56 PM   #150
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How does one go from a Phaeton to a Jetta?
12k over on the lease...?
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