2013 Honda CBR500R and CB500F - Page 20

dduelin · 01-27-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dogjaw

I've been following this thread as well S various others concerning the CB500, and have somehow missed two things:

Where does the CB redline? I rode the NC700x, was put off by the 6500 rev limiter, otherwise a nice bike...

And does it have enough electrical output to run auxiliary lighting, heated grips, etc? Thinking of getting a bike for escort duty, the CB, NC, weestrom, etc all being considered.

You didn't miss this information it just hasn't been known for sure yet as the bikes are not for sale yet and no in-depth review of the platform has been done yet.

I would guess from the general architecture of the engine (DOHC 8 valve, shim under bucket valve train, square bore x stroke, parallel twin) it will develop max hp close to 9,000 rpm and redline 10 or 11,000 rpm. Anyone's guess as to alternator output but it should be the equal or close to other middleweights - maybe 325 to 425 watts - enough for heated gear and a modest set of aux lights at riding rpm.

We are all waiting release of more information and the first motojournalist reviews.

Navin · 01-27-2013, 04:24 PM

From the vid a few pages back it looks like redline is around 9k.

dogjaw · 01-27-2013, 05:42 PM

9k would great, with usable power at 6-8... My 919 redlined at 9500, and it had all the punch I needed; granted, it was a bigger engine, but I'm liking the looks of the CB500X.

fragile_this_side_up · 01-29-2013, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Navin

From the vid a few pages back it looks like redline is around 9k.

why? why does this put you to sleep? 9k is plenty. i don't know how many times i've even come close to 9k on my SV650 in 10k miles..

Grainbelt · 01-29-2013, 05:47 AM

Bikes that are geared low with a high redline are a huge giggle to wind out on a nice road.

It also helps them to feel faster than they really are, particularly if they have a light flywheel.

Different strokes for different folks.

dduelin · 01-29-2013, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fragile_this_side_up

why? why does this put you to sleep? 9k is plenty. i don't know how many times i've even come close to 9k on my SV650 in 10k miles..

I think he rides a rev happy Kawasaki 300 with a 13,000 rpm redline?

Row, Row, Row, your box, er, boat!

Navin · 01-29-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dduelin

I think he rides a rev happy Kawasaki 300 with a 13,000 rpm redline?

Row, Row, Row, your box, er, boat!

Right now the 300 is a midrange stonker that needs a tune to pull to 12,500 soft limiter. Small displacement bikes should rev. That is just the way it should be. That's why my 300 has a tune.

It was competent and perfectly useful, but lacked the top end that I really know it should have. It is still kinda dull as the low/mid is so friggin strong the top doesn't hit, it just pulls. I can ride it around town in 6th gear with a +1 CS and just roll it on to beat traffic. Boring. I expected a Ninja 250 like powerband, where you need to row the gears and dance on the shifter, but with more top end. The engine is good but it isn't exciting. I bet the 500 Hondas will be the same. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Honesty · 01-29-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dduelin

In order to sell the 500s for riders in the new EU A2 class license tier the bike has to weigh a minimum of 175 kg or 385 lbs. This license class change effectively requires manufacturers that intend to sell bikes to riders less than 24 years old bring to market bikes that weigh 385 lbs or more curb weight ready-to-ride and have a maximum of 47 hp. Honda cannot ignore the huge UK and European market so the 500s are not going to weigh in under 385 lbs. Honda US says they weigh 420-430 lbs. depending on model.

Never knew about that regulation. Good info!

dogjaw · 01-29-2013, 05:02 PM

wow, regardless of the topic, can alway count on the Navinator to bring his unique insight

Grainbelt · 01-29-2013, 05:40 PM

You should see him in the gun threads in the basement.

Navin · 01-29-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Grainbelt

You should see him in the gun threads in the basement.

Pow! Pow!

Grainbelt · 01-29-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Navin

Pew! Pew!

I feex.

Cortez · 01-30-2013, 06:31 AM

Nevada · 01-31-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Honesty

Is there an official wet weight on these little things yet? I'm heavily considering getting rid of my NT650 for one.

If it weighs around 350 or 370 then I just might pull the trigger. I'd like to get rid of carburetors... Plus this bike's peak figures seem to be pretty inline with my Hawk's tbh. I know my engine is bigger but it's a 25-year-old bike now. :(

You'll be able to get rid of carbs, and get MUCH better brakes.

lstehbens · 02-08-2013, 08:13 PM

Honda Australia has announced pricing - http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/roa...-pricing-34961

Cbr 6990 (7490 abs)
Cbf 7290 (abs standard)
Cbx 7490 (abs standard)

Playing those abs tricks again with the cbr... Why not have abs standard?

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01-27-2013, 04:24 PM	#287
Navin Unwounding Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Trail riding! Oddometer: 4,326	From the vid a few pages back it looks like redline is around 9k.

01-27-2013, 05:42 PM	#288
dogjaw plays well alone Joined: Jul 2008 Location: between the Ozarks and the Ouachitas Oddometer: 1,368	9k would great, with usable power at 6-8... My 919 redlined at 9500, and it had all the punch I needed; granted, it was a bigger engine, but I'm liking the looks of the CB500X.

01-29-2013, 05:47 AM	#290
Grainbelt marginal adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Minnyhappiness Oddometer: 25,018	Bikes that are geared low with a high redline are a huge giggle to wind out on a nice road. It also helps them to feel faster than they really are, particularly if they have a light flywheel. Different strokes for different folks.

01-29-2013, 05:02 PM	#294
dogjaw plays well alone Joined: Jul 2008 Location: between the Ozarks and the Ouachitas Oddometer: 1,368	wow, regardless of the topic, can alway count on the Navinator to bring his unique insight

01-29-2013, 05:40 PM	#295
Grainbelt marginal adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Minnyhappiness Oddometer: 25,018	You should see him in the gun threads in the basement.

02-08-2013, 08:13 PM	#300
lstehbens Adventurer Joined: May 2011 Location: North Queensland, Australia Oddometer: 60	Honda Australia has announced pricing - http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/roa...-pricing-34961 Cbr 6990 (7490 abs) Cbf 7290 (abs standard) Cbx 7490 (abs standard) Playing those abs tricks again with the cbr... Why not have abs standard?