Fun with Outright Junk

[2bold2getold]

Ok, You guys made me want one of these little hybrids. So, looked on CL and found one !!! HA !!! It's an "86 with 1859 miles on it, but been sittin up for few years, so got some work to do on it. Looks like it's mostly all there except for the mirrors, and mostly unmolested. No big dents or dings, just a couple of small scratches. I haven't ridden Trials sense "76 on a SherpaT, and probably won't get back in to compettion, but I'm really looking forward to playing around with this thing. Just ordered a manual off ebay, and I'm sure I'll have lots of questions. Is this the right place or is there another thread that is better suited to my NOOB questions. Thanks.... couple of pics.



And here's a web site I found while researching the 200 Reflex. Cool pics. http://www.onlytrial.com/1/from_1985_to_90_120288.html

[lineaway]

Change the sprockets to trials gearing, real tires and you are most of the way there!

[Twin-shocker]

If you are using for play-bike or trail riding, leave it exactly as it...........thats what Honda made them for.

[2bold2getold]

Originally Posted by Twin-shocker

If you are using for play-bike or trail riding, leave it exactly as it...........thats what Honda made them for.

I expect to be doing more Trials typy riding, but not sure about competion. Unless the local Trials Club ( North Texas Trials Association) has a fun class for really old guys on noncompetive bikes. Had more fun riding trials than any other untill they moved me into the Master Class. Some of those sections scared the crap out of me. Thats one reason I quit. Really looking forward to doing some more fun trials riding. So.... gear down, rejet carb (?), and new tires. What tires are you guys using on the TLR200 Reflex. Back in the "70s everyone around here used Dunlop. I don't need the best high $ tires, Just some reliable trials tires. I guess there are still rules about tire sizes. I know some rules have changed because we used to have to keep forward motion.

[lineaway]

IRC makes a real trials tire, TR11`s if my memory is right.(They also make junk cheaper ones like the stock reflex tires)
Finding the tube type rear is a liitle hard. Modern bikes run tubeless. Go to a 10t cs spocket. Might ask Brutus what rear spocket he was using. The pilot jet needs to be larger, somewhere in this thread a part number was discussed I just drilled mine out.

[TXNMGUY]

Hey 2bold2getold come ride with us up in Bridgeport. We are a bunch of old fart riding TY's and having fun. Lots of vintage guys in the area. Check out www.HFVTT.com fun guys just playing on old bikes.

[2bold2getold]

Originally Posted by TXNMGUY

Hey 2bold2getold come ride with us up in Bridgeport. We are a bunch of old fart riding TY's and having fun. Lots of vintage guys in the area. Check out www.HFVTT.com fun guys just playing on old bikes.

Thanks for the replys, information, and the link guys. Got some work to do before I can do anything, but might add one more to the "old fart" group. Thanks for the invite. Bridgeport is about the closest palce to ride that I know of, If that old guy that owns the place is in a good mood at the time. I think he likes trials riders more than the others though.

[ADVCoop]

Thought this thread was supposed to be about junk? All I see are folks having fun on cool bikes .

[Sting32]

Originally Posted by 2bold2getold

I expect to be doing more Trials typy riding, but not sure about competion. Unless the local Trials Club ( North Texas Trials Association) has a fun class for really old guys on noncompetive bikes. Had more fun riding trials than any other untill they moved me into the Master Class. Some of those sections scared the crap out of me. Thats one reason I quit. Really looking forward to doing some more fun trials riding. So.... gear down, rejet carb (?), and new tires. What tires are you guys using on the TLR200 Reflex. Back in the "70s everyone around here used Dunlop. I don't need the best high $ tires, Just some reliable trials tires. I guess there are still rules about tire sizes. I know some rules have changed because we used to have to keep forward motion.

I have to say this, so take with grain of salt "ish". If you have followed me at all on this site, you already know my dad & I (he's 77 years old now) got rid of our 76, and 79 Sherpa-T's respectively, and returned to trials competition. Yes we rode and practiced trials on our old T's, and 10 year old techniques. Yes this was in 2001 or so... I got a 1999 gasgas 321, He's retired, so you might say we shared it. he rode it a lot while I slaved away at work (LOL). Mind you, he's thinking at the time, he'll just putter around, and watch me.
That didnt last long.

I think it was 3 months later he went and bought a 2000 model 321, and we're both competing every since.

BTW it is addicting!!!

SO, Unless you are absolutely like not interested in trials now, then:

Get a new style bike if you can, get to one of the NTTA events, make some friends. I think you will enjoy the hell out of it.

By the way, Look for a younger guy names Shawn, he's revamping the hell out of the NTTA's website, he was into 2shocks, bought a newer beta and he's really getting good quick on it. I wish I lived closer to where he does.

Then sometimes this summer we might meet, when Dad & I travel to the NTTA's hosting of the Central Regionals, that is held up on red river, probably this april or may?

[2bold2getold]

Originally Posted by Sting32

I have to say this, so take with grain of salt "ish". If you have followed me at all on this site, you already know my dad & I (he's 77 years old now) got rid of out 76, and 79 Sherpa-T's respectively, and returned to trials competition. Yes we rode and practiced trials on our old T's, and 10 year old techniques. Yes this was in 2001 or so... I got a 1999 gasgas 321, He's retired so you might say we shared it, he rode it a lot while I slaved away at work (LOL). Mind you, he's thinking at the time, he'll just putter around, and watch me.
That didnt last long.

I think it was 3 months later he went and bought a 2000 model 321, and we're both competing every since.

BTW it is addicting!!!

SO, Unless you are absolutely like not interested in trials now, then:

Get a new style bike if you can, get to one of the NTTA events, make some friends. I think you will enjoy the hell out of it.

By the way, Look for a younger guy names Shawn, he's revamping the hell out of the NTTA's website, he was into 2shocks, bought a newer beta and he's really getting good quick on it. I wish I lived closer to where he does.

Then sometimes this summer we might meet, when Dad & I travel to the NTTA's hosting of the Central Regionals, that is held up on red river, probably this april or may?

That was about what I figured might happen. I got the Reflex started the other night. Still got some more to do before it's usuable. One reason I got it is because my daughter, now 39 yo, said she wanted to ride again. She used to ride with me some when she was 12 on a XR100. I don't need much excuse to get a new Bike/project. I've been checking CL for newer trials bikes but don't know enough about the different models to make a smart choice yet. I know I don't want one that needs race gas and is really on the edge of reliable. Think I'll tinker around with this one for a while till I get a feel for the modern stuff. I checked out the new NTTA web site, looks much better, and some of those old pics are very familar. I won an enduro at Bulcher (Red River) in "74 on my "72 Ossa Pioneer. Pure luck. Back then all we had was a route holder and a stop watch ( which I still have BTW). Hope to meet you and your dad at the Central Regionals, and with a little luck, I'll have something better to ride by then.

[brewtus]

Originally Posted by ADVCoop

Thought this thread was supposed to be about junk? All I see are folks having fun on cool bikes .

Actually I started this thread to chronicle the progress of a pile of discarded Reflex parts into a (somewhat) competitive Twinshock Trials bike. The initial build is here http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=Outright+Junk . The name came from my buddy that had a broken-in-half Reflex that was destined for the junkman that I drove 80 miles to grab one cold December morning. I had loaded the wretched thing (it was bad!) into the back of my truck just as the scrap man drove up. When I had talked to my buddy about the bike a couple of days before, I had asked him if there was enough there to get started on the project. He replied "Hell no. Everything in that pile (where the Reflex had been discarded) is nothing but outright junk, ha ha!" The name stuck. I used the engine and wheels off of that donor for OJ.

[NMTrailboss]

Originally Posted by brewtus

Actually I started this thread to chronicle the progress of a pile of discarded Reflex parts into a (somewhat) competitive Twinshock Trials bike. The name came from my buddy that had a broken-in-half Reflex that was destined for the junkman that I drove 80 miles to grab one cold December morning. I had loaded the wretched thing (it was bad!) into the back of my truck just as the scrap man drove up. When I had talked to my buddy about the bike a couple of days before, I had asked him if there was enough there to get started on the project. He replied "Hell no. Everything in that pile (where the Reflex had been discarded) is nothing but outright junk, ha ha!" The name stuck. I used the engine and wheels off of that donor for OJ.

And let's not forget that OJ is now a state championship winning pile of crap!!

[2bold2getold]

Originally Posted by brewtus

Actually I started this thread to chronicle the progress of a pile of discarded Reflex parts into a (somewhat) competitive Twinshock Trials bike. The name came from my buddy that had a broken-in-half Reflex that was destined for the junkman that I drove 80 miles to grab one cold December morning. I had loaded the wretched thing (it was bad!) into the back of my truck just as the scrap man drove up. When I had talked to my buddy about the bike a couple of days before, I had asked him if there was enough there to get started on the project. He replied "Hell no. Everything in that pile (where the Reflex had been discarded) is nothing but outright junk, ha ha!" The name stuck. I used the engine and wheels off of that donor for OJ.

Wharever the reason you started the thread, THANKS. It has inspired me to revisit/refresh my trials roots. So, let the fun begin.

[brewtus]

Originally Posted by 2bold2getold

Wharever the reason you started the thread, THANKS. It has inspired me to revisit/refresh my trials roots. So, let the fun begin.

Do it!!

And welcome back to.....


...the Dark Side!

[lineaway]

Brewtus, time to get OJ up to speed. Less than a month away before our trials. Got the Cota 200 running again! Took it apart and found nothing obvious wrong. Replaced one main (looked like it got hot). Back together and runs better than ever.
Had to make a base gasket.(Compression seems better from the homemade gasket). Went from 3 clutch springs back to the stock six. (So much for the easy clutch pull) Added a ball bearing to the detent spring. Maybe it will stay in second this year.
Next week new tires. Also have new sprockets and chain coming. Found a one tooth smaller cs sprocket. That should solve my low end problem with the small engine!!!