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02-02-2013, 10:46 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia USA
Oddometer: 894
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Just a little worried that since the subframe doesn't hold fuel from the factory is the plastic OK for that use?
Anyone know for sure?
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02-02-2013, 11:44 AM
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Mosquito bait
Joined: Jan 2005
Location: NH
Oddometer: 5,562
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Ducati owners use the Coswell stuff to prevent their tanks for expanding and sometimes splitting. The modern plastic tanks can't deal with the ethanol or some other additive. The coatings are made for plastic tanks. Might be hard to make sure every inch if its coated, though.
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02-02-2013, 01:55 PM
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SRG
Joined: Nov 2004
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia USA
Oddometer: 894
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UW - you mean this one?
http://www.caswellplating.com/restor...nk-sealer.html The fine print says "Bonds to almost anything except polyethylene (gas tanks are not made of polyethylene)." So who knows the plastic type of the stock subframe material?
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02-02-2013, 02:15 PM
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With lots of Teeth
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: Canada
Oddometer: 24
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On the 70 degree racing website Dale says it is Cross linked Polyethylene
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02-02-2013, 02:45 PM
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Potius Sero Quam Numquam
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Pacific NorthWet
Oddometer: 4,406
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I still have my OEM subframe which I am keeping as a backup for my 70-degree tank. The EOM subframe looks like it would hold quite a bit less than the 70-degree tank, but it's hard to tell accurately. Cross-linked polyethylene and polyethylene in general can easily handle any type of fuel (gasoline, ethanol, diesel...), that's why they make gas cans out of it. |
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02-02-2013, 02:55 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Northside Brisbane, Qld Australia
Oddometer: 4,641
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It looks like it would hold around 3 litres, maybe a little bit more, when you put them side by side. That is without knowing the thicknesses of each tank.
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02-02-2013, 03:17 PM
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Mosquito bait
Joined: Jan 2005
Location: NH
Oddometer: 5,562
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As for the Coswell stuff, I might not be remembering what they used. I'll find out. Should help seal any plugs as well.
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02-02-2013, 03:25 PM
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Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: Central West NSW
Oddometer: 84
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OEM subframe conversion
Hi,
When Garry's team built the first 570 rallye bike they had to pioneer the tank solutions;It was described in this thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416713. For the subtank they used brass spigots that were threaded/glued into the base of the subframe as well as the rear of the main tank (they didn't drill through the fuel pump housing as later conversions do). Both locations don't provide much "meat" in the plastic for thread so when I got the bike they had been repaired with teflon tape and glue, but neither lasted past the first few rides and had to be abandoned. I still use the subframe (without fuel in it) and a skilled plastic welder sealed the holes in the main tank; to connect the Safari Tanks(front and rear) I then bought the fuel tap block that goes through the fuel pump housing and all is well. Cheers waldecker |
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02-02-2013, 03:48 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Oddometer: 1,376
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Thanks for the followup explanation. Pass throughs and plugs in polyethylene are doable with bulkhead fittings and proper o-rings/gaskets. A little dab of gas resistant lube on the gasket to allow it to stretch and seat. Even saying that those type of fittings must be monitored and resealed from time to time or they will seep some. Or as waldecker says an expert plastic welder can weld polyethylene. . |
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02-02-2013, 06:43 PM
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SRG
Joined: Nov 2004
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia USA
Oddometer: 894
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I was just looking at the fuel tank and subframe of my '10 FX450. The plastics look identical. Same battleship grey color. Reckon they are the same?
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02-03-2013, 12:42 AM
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Just trying to get by.
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Gympie-bike heaven.Where banjos duel with glocks.
Oddometer: 1,159
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Funny how this single thread gets more posts than the entire UHE.
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02-03-2013, 04:49 AM
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Joined: Nov 2012
Location: Canada
Oddometer: 24
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02-03-2013, 05:22 AM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Oddometer: 236
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for those with the force rally bash plate or stephans for that matter, how wide are these ? do they impact the bikes manouverability in the tight stuff as a result? do they add more protection re the brake/gear levers ? do you lose any ground clearance? just wondering from the perspective that i had an enduro engineering guard on my clutch slave unit and noticed a chunk taken out of it, don't know where or when it was done
thanks
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02-03-2013, 06:36 AM
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SRG
Joined: Nov 2004
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia USA
Oddometer: 894
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02-03-2013, 08:46 AM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Norco California
Oddometer: 1,321
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