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Old 02-03-2013, 01:41 AM   #4756
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For all you guys carrying on about the whole apparent "headshake" issue....you don't know shit.
These days, there's no way any sane major OEM would knowingly, willingly put a bike with a steering / chassis problem the market. 30 Years ago maybe, but with the liability involved today, I just can't see it. The lawsuits could potentially bankrupt a large enough company. They'd be crazy to do it. You think BMW doesn't completely cover their ass when they test it? Also, pushing any bike (in the dirt) stupid and hard enough can generate a tank slapper.
Exactly, what's with this place. I thought these guys on here were meant to know what they're talking about As if BMW would release a bike in 2013 with such a flaw at a time when the model is so important. People keep banging on about the old fInal drive issue (when BMW had virtually no competition, and when the BMW motorcycle division consisted of about 3 models), but all the repetitive points about head shake are just getting boring.

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I agree, those liars writing for Bike, motorcycle.com, canadamotoguide and motociclismo just made all this stuff up.

What gets my goat is that they were such ungrateful bastards as well. After all, BMW paid for them all to go on this trip, paid for their petrol and even took them to dinner.

The Bike guy in particular we should never attend to again. That hammer he used to bust off the steering stop, he must have packed in his luggage, and then smuggled it onto the ride in a bum bag or something. Premeditated sabotage of BMW's hard-earned reputation. What cheek! What has BMW done to him?

See my comment above. You're obviously on some kind of crusade against the new GS. Your posts are getting tedious now.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:13 AM   #4757
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There are far too many whiney bitches who think they know far too much in this thread.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:22 AM   #4758
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That has to be the worst English I've ever read. I gave up after the second paragraph
I didn't think it could be that bad until I started reading it. There really is not one coherent sentence all the way through?
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:30 AM   #4759
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So far ....

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let's update that list .... if you don't mind of course ...

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/857/15...irst-Ride.aspx

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/02/01...t-ride-review/

http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial.../#.UQ5IFx1vgoq

and of course video review



I hope I didn't miss any ...
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:39 AM   #4760
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There are far too many whiney bitches who think they know far too much in this thread.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:05 AM   #4761
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Then you don't have sense of humour... That my way of being. Joking of everything. Pretending the 2 bikes fall off the truck...

But well, I think I loose my time here trying to share fun experience...

Cheers
Of course it was a joke we all know it. Thing is... YOU are the one who made the joke?

Because if this is the case we want full details of... well everything.
Your job, the shake "issue" (?), if BMW is doing anything about it (even if they believe its nothing), more photos, more videos...

Few things.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:06 AM   #4762
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There are far too many whiney bitches who think they know far too much in this thread.
I thought this was the case in all threads everywhere.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:08 AM   #4763
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Can we come back to reality for a moment? Some of you guys argue about headshake as if it's a black-and-white thing... either the bike has a headhsake issue or it doesn't. ANY bike, under the right (or wrong) circumstances, can experience headshake. Does this bike have a problem excessive headshake? Who the &*$% knows. Certainly not anyone here. If it's that worrisome, put a steering damper on the bike - problem solved! If BMW doesn't have an OEM solution, I'm sure Scotts or Rallye-Moto or Hyperpro or GorillaZilla or Touratech will be along shortly to offer one.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:29 AM   #4764
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For all you guys carrying on about the whole apparent "headshake" issue....you don't know shit.
These days, there's no way any sane major OEM would knowingly, willingly put a bike with a steering / chassis problem the market. 30 Years ago maybe, but with the liability involved today, I just can't see it. The lawsuits could potentially bankrupt a large enough company. They'd be crazy to do it. You think BMW doesn't completely cover their ass when they test it? Also, pushing any bike (in the dirt) stupid and hard enough can generate a tank slapper.
You are obviously an expert.
Please clarify "sane major OEM"
And if possible, advise of any insane ones. I won't buy from them.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:32 AM   #4765
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Can the head shakers please start a new thread!!
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:03 AM   #4766
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Can the head shakers please start a new thread!!
Not your brand of ad nauseum, huh?

Chances are that the R-WC-GS Headshaker will eventually get its own forum category. Be patient.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:19 AM   #4767
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As if BMW would release a bike in 2013 with such a flaw at a time when the model is so important. ......
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There are far too many whiney bitches who think they know far too much in this thread.
as a counterpoint.....Ducati.....the maker of the 1199 Panigale which was first sold earlier in 2012. fast forward to today, they've reached out to the bike's owners alerting them of a potential hazard/danger attributed to heat output of the exhaust/heads, and that a fix is in place. not just a little bit of heat from what i've learned, but enough heat to cause possible/potential physical harm to the rider's skin. did the manufacturer not know of the heat issue prior to its release? could you imagine a salesperson telling a potential customer a year ago that the bike emitted such heat and that it would be unbearably hot to ride in certain ambient temps?

yes, tank slappers/head shakes can happen, to any bike, but it happening (one very violently) to three reviewers out of twenty on the same model bike gives cause for concern, specifically and justifiably more so to those about to spend $20k+ on a new one.

if the tank slapper concern isn't justified, then waiting to buy a new model year bike until the second year isn't either.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:21 AM   #4768
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I've looked at the turn signal mounting points when checking out the 2013, looks to me they are the same as on the 2012 so the nice small EU LED turn signal lights should fit just fine. That will be my first farkling job here in Canada, proper non-protruding turn signals :-)


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Old 02-03-2013, 09:11 AM   #4769
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Then you don't have sense of humour... That my way of being. Joking of everything. Pretending the 2 bikes fall off the truck...

But well, I think I loose my time here trying to share fun experience...

Cheers
I have enjoyed your posts and it is nice to have an insider working with the new bike to provide commentary about its strengths and any weakness it might have so please don't consider your time wasted due to a few folks here. I believe sometimes when we type comments the underlying intent is missed and people really meant no harm and were trying to be funny, but it comes across the wrong way. This can then spiral out of control on a forum since it becomes easy to be a tough guy when there is no fear of personal confrontation or discovery. This is especially true when you are newer and don't know the poster's personality yet. I've been on here a while but somewhat sparingly so I don't even know most of the folks tendencies or personalities. The forums are great resources but also lack the intimacy you get from face to face conversations yet without them we wouldn't have the opportunity to hear from folks like you on the other side if the planet so it's a trade off that can be worth it for me anyway. So in that regard please continue to update for those of us who are sincerely interested to hear from someone actually out there using the bike to its capabilities. Thanks and be safe out there.


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Old 02-03-2013, 09:14 AM   #4770
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I'm enamored - And as for me, I am more interested in the routine maintenance on this bike - it really has me excited! So what routine maintenance features are wrench'en retards likely capable of? The ADV Hall of Wisdom, Posts by the likes of John Jen, Poolside and others... and JVB videos have have mentored me through over ten years of GS'n. . So what's the prognosis for owner servicing this baby?
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