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Old 02-04-2013, 03:45 PM   #3436
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A quick update from tonight. I filled the tank with water and it is not water tight. One seam had a steady stream of water coming out of it and a bolt hole leaked.
That being said I did manage to fill it up with water and definitely got over a gallon of water in there. I pulled out out 3.8 litres with a bit of spillage not accounted for. So my guess is that this thing would easily yield 3.5 litres or just shy of a gallon of usable fuel if plumed correctly.
I am contacting a local plastic welder and if the rates are cheap enough I will continue with this venture. Otherwise theres a guy locally selling a 70 degree tank.
I have a suggestion to consider. Drill a decent sized hole in a place that makes the most sense on top of the tank and fit a fuel bladder to the inside. Then run your lines as needed and don't worry about trying to seal the tank.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:00 PM   #3437
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My only concern is that the hole might be quite large and take away from the structural strength of the subframe.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:07 PM   #3438
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My only concern is that the hole might be quite large and take away from the structural strength of the subframe.
you could cap it with a reinforcing aluminum plate that could double as a place to mount fuel fittings and as a filling point.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:40 PM   #3439
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This stuff might do the trick too: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=382799_0_0_

Or this: http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...21&cagpspn=pla
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:07 PM   #3440
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Inline fuel filter...

I recently replaced my fuel injector due to hard-start issues and also added to little in-line filter that KTM includes in the new part.

BUT, there's many references to this tiny little filter getting clogged up itself, so in anticipation of that eventuality, I purchased the Golan mini-filter (which is not as "mini" as the KTM inline one, but flows better and is less likely to clog).

Image #1
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I know some of you have added an inline filter - so this question is for you... Whereabouts did you end up installing it? Closer to the tank or closer to the injector end? How tight is space after installing? Any helpful tips or images?
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:25 PM   #3441
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I think most folks replace the quick disconnect with the inline filter.. requires you to use tools to disconnect in the future. but is the easiest way to get the job done. At least that is where they put the CanAm filter that everyone was using for a while.

http://www.husaberg.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15396
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:31 PM   #3442
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So I have removed my subframe and I have already found a small issue.



If you can see in the picture, there are two holes near the top of the subframe. They are not threaded and they actually go inside.

They will definitely leak or allow crud into the tank. It doesnt look like there is enough thickness to thread something in there. But I figure I will give it a shot.

Has anyone else gotten this far yet?

I may try to find a plastic welder and see if they can seal it up
As Seth says, those "woodscrew" mount holes can be a problem. They are typically sealed in the OEM subframe, but only to provide thread material for the screws. Since it wasn't designed to hold fuel, there's no tech requirement for those many (needed) mount holes to be fluid-tight and so threads may punch through etc. Hit or miss especially after bouncing around on the trail. Not saying it can't be done, but as the Husaberg racing team found, it was unreliable. Hope it works out for you.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:32 AM   #3443
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Now you know why the Seventy Degree Racing sub-frame tank has been so difficult to manufacture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #3444
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I recently replaced my fuel injector due to hard-start issues and also added to little in-line filter that KTM includes in the new part.

BUT, there's many references to this tiny little filter getting clogged up itself, so in anticipation of that eventuality, I purchased the Golan mini-filter (which is not as "mini" as the KTM inline one, but flows better and is less likely to clog).

Image #1
Image #2

I know some of you have added an inline filter - so this question is for you... Whereabouts did you end up installing it? Closer to the tank or closer to the injector end? How tight is space after installing? Any helpful tips or images?
I installed the CanAm filter between the quick disconnect (QD) and the injector - but it failed. It caused a sharp kink in the fuel line, which ruptured out on the trail. Luckily I had just crossed a nice double track so it wasn't too bad getting towed back to the car.

I then installed the CanAm in place of the QD, which is what most people do. I thought it was too much hassle to disconnect and reconnect, so I ended up removing it and going back to the QD.

That smaller Golan filter might work okay between the QD and injector.

I also installed the mini in-line filter at the injector - the original one that clogs up. It clogged up on my second day. It caused the bike to run lean and hot. Not a good day. I have now removed that as well. I have not tried the second version which is not as fine.

My theory now is to just leave everything alone. Every time I mess with, I get dirt in the system or cause some other failure. Since I quit messing with it has run perfectly. And I use fuel stabilizer if my bike will sit for more than 3 weeks. And Star-Tron for winter storage, with the tank full to reduce moisture issues with the Ethanol.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:57 PM   #3445
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I installed the CanAm filter between the quick disconnect (QD) and the injector - but it failed. It caused a sharp kink in the fuel line, which ruptured out on the trail. Luckily I had just crossed a nice double track so it wasn't too bad getting towed back to the car.

I then installed the CanAm in place of the QD, which is what most people do. I thought it was too much hassle to disconnect and reconnect, so I ended up removing it and going back to the QD.

That smaller Golan filter might work okay between the QD and injector.

I also installed the mini in-line filter at the injector - the original one that clogs up. It clogged up on my second day. It caused the bike to run lean and hot. Not a good day. I have now removed that as well. I have not tried the second version which is not as fine.

My theory now is to just leave everything alone. Every time I mess with, I get dirt in the system or cause some other failure. Since I quit messing with it has run perfectly. And I use fuel stabilizer if my bike will sit for more than 3 weeks. And Star-Tron for winter storage, with the tank full to reduce moisture issues with the Ethanol.
Swap the stock disconnect out with the metal one and you won't have to worry about it breaking. It also works a little nicer.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:13 PM   #3446
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I installed the CanAm filter between the quick disconnect (QD) and the injector - but it failed. It caused a sharp kink in the fuel line, which ruptured out on the trail. Luckily I had just crossed a nice double track so it wasn't too bad getting towed back to the car.

I then installed the CanAm in place of the QD, which is what most people do. I thought it was too much hassle to disconnect and reconnect, so I ended up removing it and going back to the QD.

That smaller Golan filter might work okay between the QD and injector.

I also installed the mini in-line filter at the injector - the original one that clogs up. It clogged up on my second day. It caused the bike to run lean and hot. Not a good day. I have now removed that as well. I have not tried the second version which is not as fine.

My theory now is to just leave everything alone. Every time I mess with, I get dirt in the system or cause some other failure. Since I quit messing with it has run perfectly. And I use fuel stabilizer if my bike will sit for more than 3 weeks. And Star-Tron for winter storage, with the tank full to reduce moisture issues with the Ethanol.
Is the hard start when cold, or when hot, or intermittent?
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:14 AM   #3447
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bashplates and screens

Hi all i was investigating bashplates for the berg and came across references to the force bash plate with liquid storage and tool box, sounded interesting and i was having trouble finding pics of them so with help from force and troy carpentre i got some pics and i think they look real good, i'm thinking of getting one to move my tools off the backend and possibly use the 2l as a backup fuel store:

the wings are to protect the rad hoses ... a cunning idea i thought

basic 2l version:

P7010018

2l plus toolbox, looks bulky off the bike:

HBerg2LTool_4

HBerg2LTool_1

HBerg2LTool_2

on the bike it looks real neat and compact:

216257_1983086978296_1845666_n

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200542_1926036392067_82231_n

the screen in the last pics is from a ktm 990 supermoto standard part, whilst looking at these i also came across this puig screen that might fit :

5052f-1

it bolts to the esge of the existing mask
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:19 AM   #3448
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Thanks for that Frosty!

Those look promising. I would also like to be able to have some fuel plus storage down low. Sure it would have little affect on handling. Did you happen to get any prices? I remember earlier in the thread someone mentioned $500 Aus. That what they are telling you?
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:32 AM   #3449
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2l plus toolbox, looks bulky off the bike:







on the bike it looks real neat and compact:



Thanks for the research... do you have any pricing info from Force?

If the cost is reasonable, I think I'd like to get one. I've got a buddy of mine in Australia right now who's coming back to the US in a month or two who might be able to bring one or two back... (of course, I haven't actually asked him yet ).
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:55 AM   #3450
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Thanks for the research... do you have any pricing info from Force?

If the cost is reasonable, I think I'd like to get one. I've got a buddy of mine in Australia right now who's coming back to the US in a month or two who might be able to bring one or two back... (of course, I haven't actually asked him yet ).

i was quoted

2l is 340 AUD
2l + toolbox is 550 AUD

plus postage, i thought it was quite reasonable but i need to save up a bit before i can buy myself
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