Concours C14 thread - Page 67

cls · 02-04-2013, 07:06 AM

I did the 'fly removal on an '06 ZX14 and an '09 C14. It does the same thing but the difference was not as dramatic on the Connie. I suspect because it's already been "retuned" for more low-mid power. I also just did the reflash on my '12 ZX14R. The differences between ECU or reflash you note will be very minimal, unless you're a racer. The reflash is very simple and quick turn-around. Or, at least is was w/Don Guhl and Brock's. I was very pleased w/all results.

Out of interest, I also have a Raider. It is a very comfortable, nice bike. It has very good power but that is largely muted by the friggin' weight of the thing. On a cruiser, though, who really cares. It looks, sounds, and pulls good.

jub jub · 02-05-2013, 10:32 AM

Hi guys, got a quick question. I was over on the Connie forum and there was a thread started on people that have dropped their bikes. Is this a common problem? Makes me feel the bike must really be top heavy and when it starts to go, not much you can do about it.

Egodriver71 · 02-05-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jub jub

Hi guys, got a quick question. I was over on the Connie forum and there was a thread started on people that have dropped their bikes. Is this a common problem? Makes me feel the bike must really be top heavy and when it starts to go, not much you can do about it.

It's called a CDA.

Realize you're balancing an almost 700lb bike.

I know plenty of people who have accidentally dropped 400lb bikes!!!

It's not really any more top heavy than any other modern sport tourer.

Shoot, if you get a new FJR and clip the bag on a pole, you'll end up in a sailboat!!!!

cablebandit · 02-05-2013, 10:46 AM

The good thing is it falls over nicely.

It just lands on the lower front part of the bag and the mirror folds in.

When it starts to go get out of it's way because there's no stopping it and you'll end up getting hurt.

scotty918 · 02-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Jub jub, I never dropped my C14. That said, I had a couple of close calls. The bike is a bit top heavy and it's a bit tall. Notice I used the words "a bit". It's really not that bad, but you need to be careful at low speeds, especially moving it around in the garage and such. My close calls were really due to carelessness on my part as much as anything else. FYI, I'm 6'0 with a 32 inch inseam. As usual, YMMV.

Scotty

motocopter · 02-05-2013, 12:05 PM

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.... My close calls were really due to carelessness on my part as much as anything else. ~ Scotty

My close call was pushing the bike back into the garage after a ride, one day last Fall. I had stopped at a convienience store and grabbed some Buds'. Just the extra weight in the right bag, was enough put the cg off-kilter a bit. Saved it.

I sure liked the reverse on the Goldwing!

Wout67 · 02-05-2013, 01:06 PM

I was backing out of an unevenly paved parking spot a couple years ago. My right leg hit a low spot, and it started to go over. I did my best to save it, but couldn't. The bottom of the right saddle bag got some minor scratches, as did the potato gun exhaust pipe.

The bracket that holds the right footpeg broke too. I ordered a new one off of bikebandit.com for about $150 or so.

I do agree. It is a top heavy bike, but if I was a little better prepared, I could have saved it from falling over.

I also had it roll off the kickstand after I first got it, and had to file an insurance claim. The total parts & labor was over $4k.

NuckaMan · 02-05-2013, 01:30 PM

Anyone running the Horizon Bars from Helibars? Thinking about dropping the serious coin for a setup....looks like it will be the ticket for long-haul comfort.

Also part of the droppers club. Did a 0MPH one in a parking lot. Only very minor surface damage to mirror and bags.

If they made the bike a little more narrow, it would help with low-speed management for folks anyone less than 34" inseam.

jub jub · 02-05-2013, 03:08 PM

Wow, sounds like buying a set of front and rear crash bars might be a good investment.

skwidd · 02-05-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jub jub

Hi guys, got a quick question. I was over on the Connie forum and there was a thread started on people that have dropped their bikes. Is this a common problem? Makes me feel the bike must really be top heavy and when it starts to go, not much you can do about it.

It's not top heavy, surprisingly well balanced for a big bike.

A good portion of your fuel is under the seat.

Fuel injection is so smooth, it's a breeze at low speeds to maneuver.

skwidd · 02-05-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NuckaMan

Anyone running the Horizon Bars from Helibars? Thinking about dropping the serious coin for a setup....looks like it will be the ticket for long-haul comfort.

I have them, and they are very nice for sitting you upright with no wrist pressure.

skwidd · 02-05-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jub jub

Wow, sounds like buying a set of front and rear crash bars might be a good investment.

I put the R&G bars on, and haven't had to test them yet in 60,000 miles.

jub jub · 02-05-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skwidd

I put the R&G bars on, and haven't had to test them yet in 60,000 miles.

An ounce of prevention keeps Murphy at bay!

scotty918 · 02-05-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NuckaMan

Anyone running the Horizon Bars from Helibars? Thinking about dropping the serious coin for a setup....looks like it will be the ticket for long-haul comfort.

I've heard nothing but good things about them. I used Murph's Risers and Wedges on mine and was VERY happy with them. I'm a big puss when it comes to weight on the wrists over several hundred miles.

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/in...?cPath=130_133

Shaggie · 02-06-2013, 12:22 AM

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=504

tip over protection

02-05-2013, 10:46 AM	#994
cablebandit Web Adventurer Joined: May 2005 Location: State College PA Oddometer: 558	The good thing is it falls over nicely. It just lands on the lower front part of the bag and the mirror folds in. When it starts to go get out of it's way because there's no stopping it and you'll end up getting hurt. __________________ IBA #33260

02-05-2013, 10:50 AM	#995
scotty918 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Oddometer: 114	Jub jub, I never dropped my C14. That said, I had a couple of close calls. The bike is a bit top heavy and it's a bit tall. Notice I used the words "a bit". It's really not that bad, but you need to be careful at low speeds, especially moving it around in the garage and such. My close calls were really due to carelessness on my part as much as anything else. FYI, I'm 6'0 with a 32 inch inseam. As usual, YMMV. Scotty __________________ My worst fear is, when I die, that my wife will sell all of my motorcycles for what I told her I paid for them.

02-05-2013, 01:06 PM	#997
Wout67 ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Portland, OR Oddometer: 1,382	I was backing out of an unevenly paved parking spot a couple years ago. My right leg hit a low spot, and it started to go over. I did my best to save it, but couldn't. The bottom of the right saddle bag got some minor scratches, as did the potato gun exhaust pipe. The bracket that holds the right footpeg broke too. I ordered a new one off of bikebandit.com for about $150 or so. I do agree. It is a top heavy bike, but if I was a little better prepared, I could have saved it from falling over. I also had it roll off the kickstand after I first got it, and had to file an insurance claim. The total parts & labor was over $4k. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you can never confirm their validity. - Abraham Lincoln www.iamsecond.com

02-05-2013, 01:30 PM	#998
NuckaMan Space Available Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Oddometer: 278	Anyone running the Horizon Bars from Helibars? Thinking about dropping the serious coin for a setup....looks like it will be the ticket for long-haul comfort. Also part of the droppers club. Did a 0MPH one in a parking lot. Only very minor surface damage to mirror and bags. If they made the bike a little more narrow, it would help with low-speed management for folks anyone less than 34" inseam. __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa 2008 BMW GS Adv

02-06-2013, 12:22 AM	#1005
Shaggie Unseen University Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Oddometer: 2,368	http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=504 tip over protection __________________ Shane S-43.514872 E172.59602 "We are not at home to Mr Reasonable" - Sam Vimes Adieu Davo, you're on the Far Ride now - missing you already mate NZ Touring pics : Brass Monkey 2009 : Kiwi Sun : Totaranui (no MC)

02-04-2013, 07:06 AM	#991
cls Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2009 Location: N GA Oddometer: 197	I did the 'fly removal on an '06 ZX14 and an '09 C14. It does the same thing but the difference was not as dramatic on the Connie. I suspect because it's already been "retuned" for more low-mid power. I also just did the reflash on my '12 ZX14R. The differences between ECU or reflash you note will be very minimal, unless you're a racer. The reflash is very simple and quick turn-around. Or, at least is was w/Don Guhl and Brock's. I was very pleased w/all results. Out of interest, I also have a Raider. It is a very comfortable, nice bike. It has very good power but that is largely muted by the friggin' weight of the thing. On a cruiser, though, who really cares. It looks, sounds, and pulls good.

02-05-2013, 10:32 AM	#992
jub jub frumiousbandersnatch Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Central, GA Oddometer: 6,422	Hi guys, got a quick question. I was over on the Connie forum and there was a thread started on people that have dropped their bikes. Is this a common problem? Makes me feel the bike must really be top heavy and when it starts to go, not much you can do about it.

02-05-2013, 03:08 PM	#999
jub jub frumiousbandersnatch Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Central, GA Oddometer: 6,422	Wow, sounds like buying a set of front and rear crash bars might be a good investment.

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