rnickymouse failure Mulholland fest

[DAKEZ]

NO, Not the MSF. If the MSF used them I would move to a different state and become an instructor.

Track Schools.

[rbrsddn]

Originally Posted by DAKEZ

NO, Not the MSF. If the MSF used them I would move to a different state and become an instructor.

Track Schools.

Me too! Imagine the carnage!!!

[Griffin44]

Originally Posted by DAKEZ

Have you ridden the bike?

It has a mode that all but neuters the thing. That is why some of the rider schools use them.

Um, yeah. I've owned one for years.

It has four modes:

Rain mode cuts HP to 163 (at the crank), puts traction control and ABS on max intervention.
Sport mode has full HP and allows slight rear wheel slip and wheel lift.
Race has full HP, more agressive mapping of the fly by wire throtte, allows more rear wheel slip and more front wheel lift.
Slick mode allows wheelies (unless you're at significant lean angle).

So, you think 163 HP with traction control and ABS is "neutered"? In Rain mode it has far more acceleration and and raw power than my wife's ZX6. I wouldn't describe it as tame even in Rain mode.

EVERYONE I know that rides one runs it in Race mode for the street almost always (they may put it in Rain when the roads are slippery).

California Superbike School uses them instead of the previous litre bikes they used. Not sure I'd call them a "rider school". Does that mean you think the ZX10's they used before were also good beginner bikes?

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by phoenixdoglover

What could go wrong? Crazy high revs, a popped clutch, and a wheelie back flip in the 1st 20 ft, that's what can go wrong.

amazing isnt it that a brand new rider can loop dammed near anything?

Originally Posted by wiseblood

It's amazing how much power sportsbikes have. Which reminds me, has anyone ever heard this story?

and again, the SV that I had made, what? 100 hp at best? and I dont care who you are, that thing was fast.

[duck]

Originally Posted by rbrsddn

Look what can happen on the Mighty SV 650!

He's just practicing his target fixation.

Looks like he has it down pretty well.

[DAKEZ]

Originally Posted by Griffin44

Does that mean you think the ZX10's they used before were also good beginner bikes?

Did the ZX10 have four performance modes and ABS brakes?

[dwoodward]

Originally Posted by rbrsddn

I agree, because I know how to ride. Some Greehorn kid won't know how to respect a liter bikes potential, and won't have the self control to not whack the throttle, and likely kill himself, or worse.

Easily solved by Randy Mamola, that special GP Ducati with a passenger seat, and some rubber-lined leathers. OK kid, this is what an eight year old bike with a passenger can do- you just bought one that's faster. (pull trigger, wheelie down pit lane). (two laps later) Any questions? Good- now go hose out those leathers. WHO'S NEXT?

[dwoodward]

Originally Posted by Griffin44

California Superbike School uses them instead of the previous litre bikes they used. Not sure I'd call them a "rider school". Does that mean you think the ZX10's they used before were also good beginner bikes?

I'm pretty sure they used ZX-6R's before the BMWs.

Originally Posted by eatpasta

amazing isnt it that a brand new rider can loop dammed near anything?

"Damned near"? I've seen a n00b wheelie a GN125. Repeatedly.

[FFLTR]

Originally Posted by LuciferMutt

It's the canyon way...

There is a certain group of riders in the ABQ area that are pretty much solely responsible for bringing a rash of cops to my favorite twisty because they insist on riding through it as fast as possible. At least one of their group crashes on it per year too. THey treat it like an all-out race track with complete disregard for everyone and everything else on it. Knee down around every corner, etc. Some of them ARE skilled riders, but it IS NOT THE PLACE.

Thanks to them, the road is just about unrideable anymore because it's constantly crawling with pissed off law enforcement. Didn't used to be that way.

So you like to go fast there but no one else should?

[Tripped1]

Originally Posted by eatpasta

and again, the SV that I had made, what? 100 hp at best? and I dont care who you are, that thing was fast.

That model SV was under 70 without a jet-kit and exhaust, a race prepped SV motor can get to around 90hp, but at that point you are really stressing the bottom end and it breaks, a lot.

[LuciferMutt]

Originally Posted by FFLTR

So you like to go fast there but no one else should?

I don't get a knee down around every corner and hit 90 MPH in the straights. In fact, I limit my top speed to 45-50 MPH on the road because of deer, gravel, and other factors. I have fun, and ride the pace and enjoy the corners but I don't make a menace of myself. Maybe you should look up the pace and see what I'm talking about.

There is a difference between riding swiftly and riding like you are on the track. The people I'm talking about are at all out track speed levels on this road. Are you one of them?

[eatpasta]

Originally Posted by Tripped1

That model SV was under 70 without a jet-kit and exhaust, a race prepped SV motor can get to around 90hp, but at that point you are really stressing the bottom end and it breaks, a lot.

SV1k

[FFLTR]

Originally Posted by LuciferMutt

I don't get a knee down around every corner and hit 90 MPH in the straights. In fact, I limit my top speed to 45-50 MPH on the road because of deer, gravel, and other factors. I have fun, and ride the pace and enjoy the corners but I don't make a menace of myself. Maybe you should look up the pace and see what I'm talking about.

There is a difference between riding swiftly and riding like you are on the track. The people I'm talking about are at all out track speed levels on this road. Are you one of them?

What's "THE PACE"? I believe the speed limit there is 35 so you speed and I speed but I have definitely been passed on that road.
I ride a little faster than the normal traffic, I slow it down if it's busy and try to be inconspicuous. But I do agree the "racers" have brought some heat on the rest of us.
Lucky for me I live 5 minutes away from there so I can head up when it's not busy.

[LuciferMutt]

Originally Posted by FFLTR

What's "THE PACE"? I believe the speed limit there is 35 so you speed and I speed but I have definitely been passed on that road.
I ride a little faster than the normal traffic, I slow it down if it's busy and try to be inconspicuous. But I do agree the "racers" have brought some heat on the rest of us.
Lucky for me I live 5 minutes away from there so I can head up when it's not busy.

The pace:

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fl...nick_ienatsch/

Yep, you're right; I speed on that road. I won't deny that. However, I'm always leaving a lot in reserve for the unpredicted. I only try to ride that road during non peak hours as well, but this last year, the BCSD has had cars out patrolling it as early as 6:00 a.m! I've ridden and driven on that road the same way I do now for over a decade -- it wasn't until just recently that it got so popular with the knee dragging crowd that it's become over patrolled.

[rocker59]

Originally Posted by LuciferMutt

It's the canyon way...

There is a certain group of riders in the ABQ area that are pretty much solely responsible for bringing a rash of cops to my favorite twisty because they insist on riding through it as fast as possible. At least one of their group crashes on it per year too. THey treat it like an all-out race track with complete disregard for everyone and everything else on it. Knee down around every corner, etc. Some of them ARE skilled riders, but it IS NOT THE PLACE.

Thanks to them, the road is just about unrideable anymore because it's constantly crawling with pissed off law enforcement. Didn't used to be that way.

Which road is your "favorite twisty"?