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Old 02-06-2013, 09:12 AM   #15661
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Interesting. I've been lurking here because this spring I want to step up from my G650GS to a Tiger 800, and as my riding is 80% pavement I was planning on getting the roadie. Are you saying I wouldn't be giving anything up on my daily commute handling and weekend canyon twisties by getting the XC?
Except things like additional $$$ and height. For me it wasn't the $$$ so much, but the height was definitely a factor. Plus I had no illusion that I'm going to be using this bike as a dirt bike. I found a great deal on a used roadie and I couldn't be happier. Plus, it would never be a deciding factor on which bike to buy, but it's nice to know I can plug a hole in 2 minutes if need be :P Either way, you're going to be pleased.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:29 AM   #15662
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Interesting. I've been lurking here because this spring I want to step up from my G650GS to a Tiger 800, and as my riding is 80% pavement I was planning on getting the roadie. Are you saying I wouldn't be giving anything up on my daily commute handling and weekend canyon twisties by getting the XC?
Are you sure 20%? If it's even 10% you want the XC. If it's 100% road you want the T800 roadie.

What the road version has going for it are the cast alloy wheels (lighter) and tubeless tires. Suspension is firmer so hard cornering is better. The 19" front turns in faster, it's a quicker handling bike. And it's a grand less. How can you miss?

But...and it's a big 'but'...if you're going to do any off pavement the XC's suspension is miles ahead, and the 21" front is far superior. The offroading GS guys install 21 fronts, it's just that much better.

For me, 90% pavement, I didn't want to give up road performance for off pavement performance. So my major criteria was that I lose nothing on the road. The XC's road manners are stellar, you really don't give up anything. Yes, the front grip patch is smaller, and you have to give a little harder tug of counter to lean the bike over. It's a beautifully cornering machine though. And the suspension is really plush, I prefer it for even road going, it's really comfy. One of the things I hated about my Versys was the hard riding suspension - the XC is just a dream. And I have mentioned before, unless you're really aggressive, there's not much brake dive or see-sawing, corner yawing. They really set them up nice.

The downside are the tube type tires and spoked wheels. They do require keeping the spokes tuned, and if you have to repair a flat you have to remove the wheel and patch or replace the tube. To me, a center stand is a must-have for the XC, without a doubt.

Looking back on the purchase decision now after 5K miles, I know I got the right one, without any hesitation. It's a fantastic motorbike that puts a big smile on your face every time you get on it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #15663
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You can ride fire roads all day long on the Roadie, ask me how I know. You can slam it into a corner just about as good as my Daytona. Only if you're going to get into serious off road conditions do I see a need for the XC.

I went with the Roadie because of the height. I'm a 30" inseam and was much more comfortable on it. And if you're ever going to haul a passenger sure footing is even better.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:54 PM   #15664
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I bought an XC kind of on a whim, as I had previously decided to get a roadie because I didn't believe I needed the off road version. Well long story short, I don't regret my whim one bit.

It handles highway and twisty bits just fine. I hardly ever ride my Speed Triple any more, even when I'm riding with my sportbike friends. It annoys them that a goofy looking "dirt bike" can keep up with them, and even more when I take "shortcuts" down unpaved or frost heaved roads.

If you're worried about height, the seat is adjustable, with a factory lower seat available. There are lowering links as well. I run mine with 20mm lowering links and the standard seat in the up position. I've got a 30" inseam, and have spent a lot of time riding with my 5'2" ex gf (before she was "ex", of course).
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #15665
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Just another option for those of us interested in aftermarket seats, I happened to stumble on this one: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/m...adventure-seat I haven't heard this mentioned before, nor do I know anything about the quality. I posted up a thread in the general equipment section to see if anyone else has any experience with them. I like the look of it at least.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:39 PM   #15666
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Mpg?

Good day all,
Is there a thread/link that s specific to mpg? I,m wondering how many fols are getting 240-250 miles per tank and how often?

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Old 02-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #15667
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Good day all,
Is there a thread/link that s specific to mpg? I,m wondering how many fols are getting 240-250 miles per tank and how often?

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I get 220 pretty regularly. Stock exhaust, and I keep current on available ECU maps.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:59 PM   #15668
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Thanks! I'm really interested in either the 800XC or the Roadie, but wanted to get a good feel for the mpg.




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Old 02-06-2013, 03:04 PM   #15669
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Thanks! I'm really interested in either the 800XC or the Roadie, but wanted to get a good feel for the mpg.
48.3mpg over the ~4500 miles I have the Tiger 800 Roadie.

Note: I do a lot of weekend touring with my wife. She's on her own bike and we go at a very unhurried pace.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:13 PM   #15670
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Good day all,
Is there a thread/link that s specific to mpg? I,m wondering how many fols are getting 240-250 miles per tank and how often?

Thanks
This might help:

http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/triumph/tiger%20t800xc
http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/triumph/tiger%20t800

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Old 02-06-2013, 03:16 PM   #15671
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Is there a thread/link that s specific to mpg? I,m wondering how many fols are getting 240-250 miles per tank and how often?

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I'm getting 43 to 45.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:49 PM   #15672
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OK, I need some help deciding. I have ridden the Roadie, but not the XC. I do know the Roadie is lower and scrubs in curves. Is this an issue with the XC?
I have my Roadie all set up for sport touring. It has a Penske rear shock where I have raised the ride height by about 15mm. I have moved the sidestand inside the frame with some 9mm spacers and dropped the Traxxion Dynamics forks with the AK-20 kit about 4 mm in the triple clamps to raise the front as much as possible. Set up like this you won't hit the sidestand cut-out plunger any more. I ride quite aggressively on the road and I can still scrape the pegs, but by that time you're moving along pretty good. The bike is really awesome for this on the road. I have a dedicated track day bike so I find the Tiger keeps the speeds sane. I would be going way too fast if I was on a sportbike. Like Browneye said, it is not a sportbike. I think if you are an aggressive road rider you will prefer the Roadie. I still take mine off-road but probably 5% or less. If you want to take yours off-road quite a bit get the XC. For how I use the bike the Roadie suits me best.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:00 PM   #15673
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Just another option for those of us interested in aftermarket seats, I happened to stumble on this one: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/m...adventure-seat I haven't heard this mentioned before, nor do I know anything about the quality. I posted up a thread in the general equipment section to see if anyone else has any experience with them. I like the look of it at least.
Hey Tim,
I just ordered the Saddlemen seat from Revzilla. Should receive it in a few days.

FYI... I did talk to a salesperson at Revzilla about both the Saddlemen and the Moose Racing seats. I wanted more room in the riders portion. He called both manufacturers and informed me the Saddlemen would be a better choice.
I will post my opinion of the seat after putting a few miles on it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:21 PM   #15674
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I have my Roadie all set up for sport touring. It has a Penske rear shock where I have raised the ride height by about 15mm.
Do you adjust preload from time to time for varying loads? If yes, how much pain is that?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:42 PM   #15675
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Do you adjust preload from time to time for varying loads? If yes, how much pain is that?
I've got one, on my 1050, and have never touched the preload. Even two-up, tank bag, and full panniers, I didn't touch anything. If you're clear about your intentions with the bike, the shop should be able to set it up accordingly. Traxxion setup mine with a passenger and full luggage and track day possibilities in mind. I've, actually, reduced preload from where they had set it. Yeah, two-up, it will run wide. But, at that pace, I should be by myself and at the track. Otherwise, it's plush and controlled. She has made numerous remarks about how nice my bike rides. I agree.

As a side note, I setup my Daytona the same way "marloweluke" setup his. I slid down the forks in the clamps and jacked up the rear to where it was on the verge of unstable, hard on the brakes. The bike would turn on a dime. I'd setup my 1050 the same way, but, it's already taller than I'd like.
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