ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Beasts
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-05-2013, 09:52 PM   #15661
JustKip
Beastly Adventurer
 
JustKip's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: Fresno, CA
Oddometer: 4,367
It don't usually matter if you're just plodding along, but at speed, definitely OFF
JustKip is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 01:34 AM   #15662
Pecha72
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Oddometer: 3,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by jphish View Post
OK - so vote is 2 - 0 ABS off. That would be my inclination - but heard others suggest elsewhere that they preferred their ABS "on" - were able to slow down faster than off, And could still "dab" the brake to assist turns in dirt. My limited experience is ABS works fine for "run of the mill" dirt roads and mild declines. Have not tested on loose substrate / steep declines. Hence, my question.
Riding conditions, your personal riding style & preference, and the way that the ABS works on your bike (the term ABS refers to many different systems, first of which were developed decades ago, so they cannot all possibly be “the same”). Those combined will give you the one and only ´right answer´ to your question. IF there is one, that is.

Note, that some people don´t like ABS period, and so they´ll just simply tell you to switch it off. It´ll make no difference, if they tried it on a BMW K100 from 1986, or on an S1000RR with race-ABS of today, or even never tried it – they don´t like it. I´m not saying you should always keep it on either, but just to keep that in mind, and make your own decision.
Pecha72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 04:04 AM   #15663
blacktiger
Tigers R great.
 
blacktiger's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: St.Leonards on Sea, England.
Oddometer: 3,606
Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmetHead Cycle View Post
OK, I need some help deciding. I have ridden the Roadie, but not the XC. I do know the Roadie is lower and scrubs in curves. Is this an issue with the XC?
My take on it is this ; after having a Scrambler900efi and taking places it wasn't supposed to go, I thought all I needed was the roadie.......until I rode the XC. The XC is IMHO better at everything.
__________________
2002 black Tiger955i, 72000 miles and counting.
2012 black Tiger800XC, 40000 miles and counting.
blacktiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 06:51 AM   #15664
viper770
Studly Adventurer
 
viper770's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Kansas The land of oz
Oddometer: 575
i test rode the street version but i own the xc your not missing a thing get the xc other wise you will be sorry lol the xc will do anything the roadie can and you have more options with the xc
__________________
2012 YAMAHA WR250R
2013 KAWASAKI KLR650
"Take the long way home"
MY SPOT LOCATION http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...vi71zS820h7TbU
viper770 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 07:20 AM   #15665
andoulli
CAJUN
 
andoulli's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Oddometer: 2,114
And if you buy the XC, you won't have to waste money on a tire plug kit.
andoulli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 08:51 AM   #15666
reenmachine
Rain or Shine
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Location: Studio City, CA
Oddometer: 493
Quote:
Originally Posted by blacktiger View Post
My take on it is this ; after having a Scrambler900efi and taking places it wasn't supposed to go, I thought all I needed was the roadie.......until I rode the XC. The XC is IMHO better at everything.
Quote:
Originally Posted by viper770 View Post
i test rode the street version but i own the xc your not missing a thing get the xc other wise you will be sorry lol the xc will do anything the roadie can and you have more options with the xc
Interesting. I've been lurking here because this spring I want to step up from my G650GS to a Tiger 800, and as my riding is 80% pavement I was planning on getting the roadie. Are you saying I wouldn't be giving anything up on my daily commute handling and weekend canyon twisties by getting the XC?
__________________
'14 KTM 1190 Adventure
'11 BMW G650GS
'02 Yamaha FZ1
reenmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 08:53 AM   #15667
Yossarian™
Deputy Cultural Attaché
 
Yossarian™'s Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: the 'Ha
Oddometer: 9,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by reenmachine View Post
Interesting. I've been lurking here because this spring I want to step up from my G650GS to a Tiger 800, and as my riding is 80% pavement I was planning on getting the roadie. Are you saying I wouldn't be giving anything up on my daily commute handling and weekend canyon twisties by getting the XC?
That's how I read it.
__________________
Successfully surviving motorcycling since 1976.
Yossarian™ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 09:12 AM   #15668
elan
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Gainesville, FL
Oddometer: 128
Quote:
Originally Posted by reenmachine View Post
Interesting. I've been lurking here because this spring I want to step up from my G650GS to a Tiger 800, and as my riding is 80% pavement I was planning on getting the roadie. Are you saying I wouldn't be giving anything up on my daily commute handling and weekend canyon twisties by getting the XC?
Except things like additional $$$ and height. For me it wasn't the $$$ so much, but the height was definitely a factor. Plus I had no illusion that I'm going to be using this bike as a dirt bike. I found a great deal on a used roadie and I couldn't be happier. Plus, it would never be a deciding factor on which bike to buy, but it's nice to know I can plug a hole in 2 minutes if need be :P Either way, you're going to be pleased.
elan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 09:29 AM   #15669
browneye
PIN IT & BANG GEARS
 
browneye's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Oddometer: 5,074
Quote:
Originally Posted by reenmachine View Post
Interesting. I've been lurking here because this spring I want to step up from my G650GS to a Tiger 800, and as my riding is 80% pavement I was planning on getting the roadie. Are you saying I wouldn't be giving anything up on my daily commute handling and weekend canyon twisties by getting the XC?
Are you sure 20%? If it's even 10% you want the XC. If it's 100% road you want the T800 roadie.

What the road version has going for it are the cast alloy wheels (lighter) and tubeless tires. Suspension is firmer so hard cornering is better. The 19" front turns in faster, it's a quicker handling bike. And it's a grand less. How can you miss?

But...and it's a big 'but'...if you're going to do any off pavement the XC's suspension is miles ahead, and the 21" front is far superior. The offroading GS guys install 21 fronts, it's just that much better.

For me, 90% pavement, I didn't want to give up road performance for off pavement performance. So my major criteria was that I lose nothing on the road. The XC's road manners are stellar, you really don't give up anything. Yes, the front grip patch is smaller, and you have to give a little harder tug of counter to lean the bike over. It's a beautifully cornering machine though. And the suspension is really plush, I prefer it for even road going, it's really comfy. One of the things I hated about my Versys was the hard riding suspension - the XC is just a dream. And I have mentioned before, unless you're really aggressive, there's not much brake dive or see-sawing, corner yawing. They really set them up nice.

The downside are the tube type tires and spoked wheels. They do require keeping the spokes tuned, and if you have to repair a flat you have to remove the wheel and patch or replace the tube. To me, a center stand is a must-have for the XC, without a doubt.

Looking back on the purchase decision now after 5K miles, I know I got the right one, without any hesitation. It's a fantastic motorbike that puts a big smile on your face every time you get on it.
__________________
Chris Brown - "The Browneye"
"Without Motorcycles, People Live Very Boring Lives." - Malcolm Smith
Camp Nelson 2014 RRLaguna Seca 2012 RRSequoia 3-Day CampoutThanksgiving 2012
browneye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #15670
GearHd6
Gnarly Adventurer
 
GearHd6's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Ashford, CT
Oddometer: 159
You can ride fire roads all day long on the Roadie, ask me how I know. You can slam it into a corner just about as good as my Daytona. Only if you're going to get into serious off road conditions do I see a need for the XC.

I went with the Roadie because of the height. I'm a 30" inseam and was much more comfortable on it. And if you're ever going to haul a passenger sure footing is even better.
__________________
2011 Tiger 800
2004 CRF250X
1998 Daytona
GearHd6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 12:54 PM   #15671
Chinookmark
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: New Hartford, CT
Oddometer: 214
I bought an XC kind of on a whim, as I had previously decided to get a roadie because I didn't believe I needed the off road version. Well long story short, I don't regret my whim one bit.

It handles highway and twisty bits just fine. I hardly ever ride my Speed Triple any more, even when I'm riding with my sportbike friends. It annoys them that a goofy looking "dirt bike" can keep up with them, and even more when I take "shortcuts" down unpaved or frost heaved roads.

If you're worried about height, the seat is adjustable, with a factory lower seat available. There are lowering links as well. I run mine with 20mm lowering links and the standard seat in the up position. I've got a 30" inseam, and have spent a lot of time riding with my 5'2" ex gf (before she was "ex", of course).
Chinookmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #15672
some call me...tim
Gnarly Adventurer
 
some call me...tim's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: Seattle
Oddometer: 278
Just another option for those of us interested in aftermarket seats, I happened to stumble on this one: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/m...adventure-seat I haven't heard this mentioned before, nor do I know anything about the quality. I posted up a thread in the general equipment section to see if anyone else has any experience with them. I like the look of it at least.
some call me...tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 02:39 PM   #15673
dljocky
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Yorktown, Va
Oddometer: 853
Mpg?

Good day all,
Is there a thread/link that s specific to mpg? I,m wondering how many fols are getting 240-250 miles per tank and how often?

Thanks
dljocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #15674
Yossarian™
Deputy Cultural Attaché
 
Yossarian™'s Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: the 'Ha
Oddometer: 9,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by dljocky View Post
Good day all,
Is there a thread/link that s specific to mpg? I,m wondering how many fols are getting 240-250 miles per tank and how often?

Thanks
I get 220 pretty regularly. Stock exhaust, and I keep current on available ECU maps.
__________________
Successfully surviving motorcycling since 1976.
Yossarian™ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2013, 02:59 PM   #15675
dljocky
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Yorktown, Va
Oddometer: 853
Thanks! I'm really interested in either the 800XC or the Roadie, but wanted to get a good feel for the mpg.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian™ View Post
I get 220 pretty regularly. Stock exhaust, and I keep current on available ECU maps.
dljocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 09:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014