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Old 02-06-2013, 02:38 PM   #16
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I don't really see anything about the Morphous that is collectible. It is plastic, and has fuel injection and electronics just like newer cars. The era of collectible cars ended back in the '70s. Bikes lasted a little longer. Bikes like a '48 Indian, '68 Bonneville, BSA Gold Star, Vincent, Norton single, etc, are definitely collectors items, and at least in my opinion should be kept in museums. I really cringe when I see someone riding a classic bike or driving a classic car in traffic. If it gets destroyed, you cannot simply go out and buy a new one. There will be one less in existence. To me to be collectible, a vehicle has to mean something, and very little made in the past 30 years does, at least to most vehicle collectors. I own 2 collector cars, which are kept in a locked garage with an alarm, and driven occasionally to a local car show. My transportation is an '01 Chevy Malibu, a total POS, even when new. I don't have to worry about it. It sits out in the AZ sun. It has dings and dents in it. If it gets destroyed, I'll just get something else like it. I do consider my Genuine Stella 2 stroke a semi collectors item. I ride it a lot, but also take care of it. I don't beat it up. Unlike the Morphous, it is real steel, looks exactly like a vintage Vespa, and the big thing is that it is a 2 stroke. A 150cc 2 stroke. There will be no more of those ever sold in the U.S. And it has no electronics or emissions crap. Just look at the prices of vintage Japanese 2 stroke road bikes and vintage Vespas
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:37 PM   #17
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I don't really see anything about the Morphous that is collectible. It is plastic, and has fuel injection and electronics just like newer cars. The era of collectible cars ended back in the '70s. Bikes lasted a little longer. Bikes like a '48 Indian, '68 Bonneville, BSA Gold Star, Vincent, Norton single, etc, are definitely collectors items, and at least in my opinion should be kept in museums. I really cringe when I see someone riding a classic bike or driving a classic car in traffic. If it gets destroyed, you cannot simply go out and buy a new one. There will be one less in existence. To me to be collectible, a vehicle has to mean something, and very little made in the past 30 years does, at least to most vehicle collectors. I own 2 collector cars, which are kept in a locked garage with an alarm, and driven occasionally to a local car show. My transportation is an '01 Chevy Malibu, a total POS, even when new. I don't have to worry about it. It sits out in the AZ sun. It has dings and dents in it. If it gets destroyed, I'll just get something else like it. I do consider my Genuine Stella 2 stroke a semi collectors item. I ride it a lot, but also take care of it. I don't beat it up. Unlike the Morphous, it is real steel, looks exactly like a vintage Vespa, and the big thing is that it is a 2 stroke. A 150cc 2 stroke. There will be no more of those ever sold in the U.S. And it has no electronics or emissions crap. Just look at the prices of vintage Japanese 2 stroke road bikes and vintage Vespas
I've read a lot of your posts [there's a helluva lot of them!] and I like the fact you qualify your statements with "in my opinion". Thanks for doing that Jerry, it makes what you say less challenging so we readers can digest the meat of what you're saying. Frankly I'm surprised you consider the Stella 2T as a collectible but that only illustrates how divergent a group we are. I owned one briefly and somehow it never struck me quite like that but again, that's the difference between individuals. The Morpheus as a collectible....well....not for me but then again there are gobs of older scooters that I feel are butt ugly and miserable examples of engineering. Still saying so doesn't mean I and I suspect a lot of others don't enjoy seeing them alive and running. What's the old saying, Beauty is only skin deep but Ugly goes clear to the bone?

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #18
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Actually I have under 1000 posts. Many here have 5 or 6 times that. I generally don't consider anything with electronics and emissions stuff on it to be collectible. I don't actually consider the Stella collectible, like I would a real vintage Vespa. I don't really care what happens to it when I'm gone. Neither of my kids want it. But I do want to keep it nice while I'm still around to enjoy it. To me, any 2 stroke road bike is something special. My first street bike back in '76 was a Suzuki GT380 2 stroke. I got it dirt cheap, and it was nice. Look at what those early 2 strokes cost now. I've seen Kawasaki Mach III 2 stroke triples go for $20,000. And they weren't built that great to begin with. If 2 stroke road bikes were still available, then the old ones would not be worth so much. The EPA drove the prices of them up. Just like there are certain items that people think might be banned soon. They bought up all of them in one day, and the price of new ones doubled overnight.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:01 PM   #19
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I don't really see anything about the Morphous that is collectible. It is plastic, and has fuel injection and electronics just like newer cars.
.. What does plastic and fuel injection have to do with anything?

What might make it worth something to someone some day is the fact that Yamaha only imported it from 06-08 and sold like a dozen of them. Two of which made it to my families garage. Even scooter owners go when you mention a morphous. So the rareness alone might make it worth something some day. It's also a very unique looking vehicle which is another plus.

That's the thing about collecting. You never really know what's going to be worth something. However, I image if someone had a pristine Morphous and held onto it for 30 years and than put up for auction, I would not be surprised if it sold for more than it's inflation adjusted original MSRP.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:35 PM   #20
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4 phillip screws fuel injected and from what I know only around 1500 of them sold in the US so maybe some would find that collectible. I love mine, hard to find accessories want something a little larger for longer trips. I find it comfortable and will cruise at 70 easy. Have fun you'll get lots of looks and questions.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #21
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Gosh, a 58 Corvette has a plastic sort of body, and if it's fuel injected, it's worth a bundle. Collectible is all tied up in desirability and scarcity and fantasy. You can't make any good judgments about collectible in the first years, except in very rare cases. And, while I think 80's styling is really ugly, 40 year old people remember it fondly from their childhood and might actually want to own a mid 80's scooter.

If I like the machine, then I like it. If you don't, but I do, well, that's sort of the baseline of owning a scooter anyway.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:51 PM   #22
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This was a very surprising trip. I put a bigger screen on it as soon as I picked it up in Tucson and tucked in behind that slab of plastic for a 75mph freeway rip back to Tempe.

Couldn't do 80 but 75 was easy and that little engine didn't seem to care where in the rev range you were with one exception... it doesn't hold much fuel and I had not even given that a thought. At freeway speeds she gets fairly thirsty and when I glanced at the gauge and noticed what had happened I about choked on my tongue swearing in my helmet.

There happened to be a lonely fuel station not far off the freeway in what looked like the middle of nowhere to me so there was no pushing involved.

I do like the little scooter though and am happy I bought it. I see what some of you've been going on about now. Definitely an in town sort of thing or at least better suited to somebody that's a little on the relaxed side. Dipping behind the screen to overcome drag was not the way time was supposed to pass on this little batman-esque missile.

Impressive brakes, too. Not even related to the wooden jobs I recall as a kid. Medic & Hacksaw... thanks for checking the fasteners
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:20 AM   #23
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My wife and I have toured on scooters. 2 trips have been to Las Vegas from our home 60 miles north of Seattle. Our scooters were SYM RV250's, carbureted scooters, fuel injection would have been nice. I think your Morphous would do fine on a road trip north. We have rode highway 101 and 395 extensively on our trips and would be a good roads north. We did run interstate from Barstow to Vegas and 99 from Bakersfield to Sacremento and no problems with traffic, cruising at 60-70mph.
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