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Old 02-08-2013, 07:40 AM   #91
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Honda sucks. They kill off the XR & CR, which were a great series, in favor of the maintenance intensive CR-F, get rid of the VFR to replace it with a their modern version of Yamaha's GTS, and then come out with all these little tiddlers and half ass efforts at a retro bike. And I'm saying this as someone who has had a Honda in their garage their entire life (42yrs). My next ride won't be "Red".......
Yeah,Honda has boring down to a T,even their CRF450 cant win a shootout anymore. Honda fanatics slobber over the latest "sensible" bikes from Honda.
Sensible doesnt really sell in America much.
KTM,BMW and other euro builders have dove in deep and are increasing market share while Honda and other japanese builders slumber along. Imagination seems to be lacking.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:41 AM   #92
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Possibly Honda is using the F800GT, in a price point state of build, as a basis to draw customers their way...Can't afford a Beemer, but wants a mid sized tourer/commuter, look at this Honda... The F800 is really good looking. The Honda is trying.
Funny you say that, because that is exactly what I had in mind. But I won't go from a gorgeous F800 to a poorly conceptualized and executed (my opinion, I know) CTX700.

If Honda had the F800GT in mind AT ALL, they blew it, huge.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:55 AM   #93
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Are those saddlebags the same tiny pizza boxes from the NC700X?
Def on the thin side

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:01 AM   #94
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Def on the thin side

I've had brief cases larger than that. Not going to carry much if both sides are the same size. tp
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:09 AM   #95
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I would like to know where it is made.

Also the ultimatemotorcycling.com article says
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Beneath the fuel tank cover there’s a handy glove box area, and the fuel is carried beneath that. All in all, the CTX700N/ND are amazingly affordable, friendly and comfortable bikes that are perfect for everyday rides, weekend trips, two-up exploring or just about anything else you can dream up.
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2014 CTX700N: $6999
2014 CTX700ND: $7999 (DCT/ABS)
Availability: spring 2013
So it seems the filler cap is not under the seat (yay!) but the gas tank now resides in the storage area that the NC700X has. I hope that means there is a nice under seat storage area??? I realize you can't stick a helmet in there, but it is easy enough to lock a helmet to a bike. I would prefer the storage area to be under the seat. That is where I like to stick things that I rarely need, but never leave home without - like a tire repair kit and an air compressor. A few choice tools. A light weight rainsuit, a u-lock? Depends on what will fit. Who knows, you may even be able to get a tripod in there!
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:13 AM   #96
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Not impressed or excited by these bikes

More bikes in search of a market?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:17 AM   #97
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oh yeah, I forgot to say - somewhere I read about the seat, but I can't find it now. Anyway it sounds like Honda has made a serious attempt at producing a comfortable seat. It does appear to be nice and wide, and nicely shaped.

The saddle bags do look thin, but what is their capacity? I suspect it is more than it appears to be. Besides, if they are too small for you, you can take comfort that they are probably too expensive also A good set of 35 liter soft bags can be had for cheap. I bought a pair new for $50. Used them once. A guy I know liked them and offered me $100 for them. They are his now.

Like I said, I am not crazy about the 3.17 gallon tank, but if the bike is knocking back 60-70 mpg, that's over 180 - 210 mile range. Not too shabby. My Nomad carries 5+ gallons but it only gets 35 - 40 mpg, so the Honda has a better range than the bike I have now. And the Nomad likes the expensive stuff.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:22 AM   #98
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I must admit I am a bit disappointed. I was hoping for something completely new, with maybe a 900cc motor. I will reserve final judgement until I see one in the flesh, however. Not crazy about a 3 gallon gas tank, either. When I saw the first pic and realized it was the same motor as the NC700X, I thought for sure it would carry at least 5 gallons.

I do like the looks of this quite a bit:

Those look like Givi V35 cases.
I agree, it's a good looking bike and looks like it will provide pretty good wing protection.
But seriously, 3 gallons and forward controls?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:24 AM   #99
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Not impressed or excited by these bikes

More bikes in search of a market?

I think so. Honda doubled down on their previous failure with the Pacific Coast.......
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:30 AM   #100
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Makes sense for the N/A marketplace; cruiser ergos without (most) of the weight.

Looks good, not for me.

I'd reserve judgement until ridden though myself.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:32 AM   #101
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Not impressed or excited by these bikes

More bikes in search of a market?
Yep. The NC700S is a better looking bike, to me. Guess they are trying to present us with a reprised version of the Pacific Coast, less some tupperware.

My duke 690 gets 55mpg and is a blast to ride. Don't figure I will be trading anytime soon.

Funny, but upon reading the Honda intro presented here earlier this AM, it appears they are marketing this line like they do the Civic, stressing comfort and ergonomics as selling points that appeal to the average driver. Maybe they know something we don't about their future markets. tp
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:35 AM   #102
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Those look like Givi V35 cases.
They appear to be the same 29L cases from the NC700X with a different cover.

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:37 AM   #103
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This is 2013's Knighthawk 750, an average, low priced minimal maintenance slightly flashy looking bike.
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Here's a pic of the CTX700N in red.

Also for the NC700X fans the UltimateMotorcycling.com article states:
"The CTX lineup will feature the same parallel twin that is featured in the NC700X, which also returns in 2013 with two new color changes.'

At least American Honda is giving some us a few color choices.

Edit: More info/pics/accessories/etc at the website now http://powersports.honda.com/ctx.asp...ctx.honda.com/
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:40 AM   #104
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They appear to be the same 29L cases from the NC700X with a different cover.
Bingo! V35's are wider, and can hold a full-face helmet. To me, that's what a hard saddlebag should be able to do.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:48 AM   #105
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The CTX delivers maneuverability and comfort brought by coupling a low center of gravity with less tiring low-vibration characteristics to realize an uninterrupted stress-free ride even as the distance adds up. Excellence in both stability and cornering offers users quiet and stable high-speed cruising. On top of this, the super-controllable engine characteristics found in the CTX series realize a smooth launch, speed changes and decelerating combined with smooth power response. Honda has thus achieved a level of comfort never experienced before through its pursuit of super-controllability accomplished by the best-fitting engine characteristics for every condition.

The CTX styling inherits Honda's own "horizontal motive design" from its flagship model, the GL1800 (GOLDWING) - a model enjoying high acclaim worldwide. From the overall styling all the way down to the very details including the seat and silencer, the horizontal motive design melds harmony with functional beauty.

The CTX series incorporating Honda's technologies seeks to reduce susceptibility to variations in the riders' experience and body size and offers a comfortable ride for any rider. These models also give users the opportunity to experience a stress-free ride in a wide variety of uses, from long-distance rides to street transport.

For styling, Honda's unique and stout horizontal motive design was selected in Honda's quest to give the rider a sense of freedom through the up-close feel embodying the world view of the GOLDWING (GL1800), known for nimble transport on the street and a stress-free ride. The models are nimbly configured with a low center of gravity using a shape that honors the horizontal motive design. The forward glare of the front face and the "front-massive form" convey an impression from the front of a mass so dense that no concept like this has existed before.

To enable the widest possible variety of customers to ride with a sense of security, model types incorporating more lightweight, compact and highly useful DCT (dual clutch transmission) will be available for both the CTX700N and CTX700. Also adopting ABS (anti-lock brake system) as standard equipment, these model types with DCT will offer the user an "easy, comfortable and exhilarating" ride so that a broad spectrum of customers can experience riding comfort in a simple and easy way.

The CTX700N and CTX700 make use of a diversity of comfort technologies thought up by Honda. We are bringing these models to market to give a wider variety of customers than before the opportunity to experience the appeal of stress free, exceedingly comfortable motorcycle.
I didn't know so many people were stressed out by the current crop of motorcycle offerings....
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