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Old 02-03-2013, 05:55 PM   #5161
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Yeah, it has to do with sulfur content and the source of one's gas. I'm not up on all the different standards with NG versus LP or even what the current, accepted standards are. I live in a small town that is behind the times. We don't even have inspectors to enforce our codes. Even if we did, I wouldn't trust 'em, based on what I've seen from our city engineer.

Same here. But our building and electrical inspectors are actually good, know their stuff, and take the time to actually look stuff over well.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:56 AM   #5162
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Check into your Cathodic protection codes for metal fuel piping in contact with the earth. You will find that in your states Environmental Department guidelines. They will have different rules for different fuel types and piping materials.

type K copper is typically what is used for Propane/NG.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:25 AM   #5163
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[QUOTE=Poweranger;20643186]. I do not plan on ever pouring gas down my floor drain so I didn't vent it.

Nobody "Plans" to pour it down the drain but you can imagine the 1001 ways it happens. Also, heavier than air gasses such as propane can leak in your garage and pour themselves down the drain (invisible to you). I recommend a vent. Trapped fumes can linger for a long time and bite you in the ass when you least expect it. I learned this from rebuilding boats.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:30 PM   #5164
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. I do not plan on ever pouring gas down my floor drain so I didn't vent it.

Nobody "Plans" to pour it down the drain but you can imagine the 1001 ways it happens. Also, heavier than air gasses such as propane can leak in your garage and pour themselves down the drain (invisible to you). I recommend a vent. Trapped fumes can linger for a long time and bite you in the ass when you least expect it. I learned this from rebuilding boats.
I never thought about the propane. That would actually be the most likely thing to leak since it is piped in from a large container. I do not store gasoline in there so I didn't really worry about it. Speaking of 1001 ways I know of one. I had a garden tractor get a cracked fuel tank that leaked fuel out on the garden shed floor. Thanks for bringing up the subject. I think I will put a vent on my list of spring projects.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:30 AM   #5165
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Nobody "Plans" to pour it down the drain but you can imagine the 1001 ways it happens. Also, heavier than air gasses such as propane can leak in your garage and pour themselves down the drain (invisible to you). I recommend a vent. Trapped fumes can linger for a long time and bite you in the ass when you least expect it. I learned this from rebuilding boats.
Great advice!
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:36 AM   #5166
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I have envy over those with space! I just moved to a 3 car Garage Home! unpacking now.
All right now I'm expecting you to have everything unpacked by the next time I come to visit you dad! We have project bikes to work on!!

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Old 02-09-2013, 09:26 AM   #5167
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Here are few more build pics.

I installed a floor drain in the shop area before we poured the floor. Floor drains are ok by code here except that they must drain out in the open or be vented where ever they end up so gas or oil fumes can not build up. I do not plan on ever pouring gas down my floor drain so I didn't vent it.
How hard is it to vent that floor drain? What happens when you spill some gas, forget to shut the petcock when removing a gas tank, your kid is too lazy to properly dispose of the gas in the mower before winter etc.

I have found that when I don't do something because I don't plan on ever needing it, I usually want/need it later whith much greater expense (washer/dryer hookups in the basement, 220V in the garage, # of regular outlets in the garage, etc)

Someday I will have a shop like that. The deal with my wife is that after my military career, she can pick where we live as long as I get a shop the size of a three car garage.

ETA, I should finish a thread before I post. What the other guys said
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:42 PM   #5168
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Workshop Rehab Project

For ten years I lived in a 3 story townhouse. My truck lived in the street and I had a standard two-car garage for the bikes.



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Old 02-15-2013, 06:47 PM   #5169
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The new joint

My wife wanted dirt to dig in so we sold the townhouse and bought an older house on a half acre lot, still in the city. The garage is temporary housing for the bikes.





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Old 02-15-2013, 06:51 PM   #5170
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But in the back of the lot is this little gem -







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Old 02-15-2013, 06:55 PM   #5171
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It's got some issues.





But I start to move in.





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Old 02-15-2013, 06:59 PM   #5172
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Then I start planning -





Note - the above two drawings are turned 180 degrees from each other. You can't see in these scans, but these drawings are done on graph paper to scale. The shop is 20' x 20'.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:05 PM   #5173
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And a nice fence with rolling gate -



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Old 02-15-2013, 08:44 PM   #5174
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Looks good!
Any issues with water flowing into/through the backyard shop?
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:07 AM   #5175
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And a nice fence with rolling gate -



More to come.
Looks good. Wood siding has the most appealing look IMO. Are you going to paint or stain?
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