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Old 02-09-2013, 08:18 PM   #5701
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Maybe 205...

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Old 02-09-2013, 09:36 PM   #5702
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Maybe 205...
Pilot looks like he's 12. Maybe 14.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:39 AM   #5703
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Pilot looks like he's 12. Maybe 14.
I looked like that at 28, 19-21 year-olds fight wars, but that's a different discussion. The car driver was probably 100+ lbs heavier than the pilot.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:27 PM   #5704
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I lost my right seater this morning. Best pilot and best friend. We just finished up with a shoot a week or so ago in Chicago and then he went home for a break before this job. I don't know if there will ever be anyone I can trust with my life like I could David. A very sweet and gentle soul. I'm booking a flight to Cali now. If anyone here knows DG, maybe I'll see you this week around VNY.

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Old 02-10-2013, 06:39 PM   #5705
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Aw crap.

Sorry about your friend.

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Old 02-10-2013, 06:46 PM   #5706
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I just heard this afternoon from some friends in the industry.

Always sad.

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Old 02-10-2013, 06:59 PM   #5707
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Ah man, that just sucks.

I'm near VNY - give a shout if you need anything.

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Old 02-11-2013, 05:52 AM   #5708
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I saw that article and was afraid they'd be known to people on this thread, small world that y'all have.

Sorry for your loss, and best wishes to the families of all in that crash.

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Old 02-11-2013, 10:49 PM   #5709
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This did go wrong ... luckily no one got hurt

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Old 02-12-2013, 12:09 PM   #5710
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This did go wrong ... luckily no one got hurt

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Old 02-13-2013, 09:17 AM   #5711
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:27 PM   #5712
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Can someone with knowledge of such things give us a bit more info on the condition the pilot described leading to the crash?
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:41 PM   #5713
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Two up... that is some close air support!
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:00 AM   #5714
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Can someone with knowledge of such things give us a bit more info on the condition the pilot described leading to the crash?
Sounds like a hydraulics hard over. Basically the valves on the hydraulics controls ceased functioning and jammed the controls. Sometimes recycling the on/off switch for the hydraulic control system will unstick the pump/valves but you do need a couple of seconds to do that. If that does not work, you can try pulling the circuit breaker and punching it back in. If neither of those work, you turn off the system, pull the circuit breaker and both pilots try to wrestle the system into some sort of flyable configuration. The Cobra has an emergency accumulator/hydraulic pump that can be turned on to provide hydraulic power for a very limited time. It is normally used only on final approach as you don't get much use out of it, so it is a last resort sort of thing.

Cobras also have a stability augmentation system that the old UH-1 does not have which also complicates matters. See http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-1-1520-236-CL.pdf or TM 55-1520-236-10 page 322 for more information.

A simple hydraulics failure as opposed to the hard over is much easier to deal with. In the simple situation, the pump just quits pumping but everything else works - no closed valves, etc. Not a lot of fun, but flyable and pilots do train on those maneuvers.

I know many of the folks at the Army Aviation Heritage Foundation (flew with some of them as well back in they day) and all their pilots are very experienced and capable.

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Old 02-18-2013, 01:22 AM   #5715
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Reversals at low altitudes and low airspeeds are never a good idea imo. I know of other H-1s that have been planted by highly trained and capable pilots. It will be interesting to note how the AMB investigation goes in regards to what they do or don't find in their further examination of the mechanical system to include hydraulics and scas.
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