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Old 02-13-2013, 08:29 PM   #73756
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I know this probably lost in the mix so I'll ask again. I recently bought the iridium spark plugs, one step hotter. is this going to be okay running 790 kit?
I do like Iridium plugs ... but, far as I know, the ones I bought were same heat range as stock plugs. I find Denso plugs better than NGK ... but are usually more expensive. (double last I checked)

Iridium plugs last longer, burn a bit cleaner. Starting, idle and MPG all just a bit better. I've used them for the last 40,000 miles or so ... all good.
Stock plugs on my bike were WORN OUT at 8K miles.
Iridium goes to 20K.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:37 PM   #73757
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I know this probably lost in the mix so I'll ask again. I recently bought the iridium spark plugs, one step hotter. is this going to be okay running 790 kit?
Suzuki engineers are a bucket-load smarter than I am and I see no reason to question their judgement on plug heat range. If anything, the 790 will make more heat and a cooler plug would seem to be more appropriate. You will have heap of time and money in this upgrade, don't melt it.

Perhaps Jeff will reply, if not, a PM or e-mail would be prudent.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:39 PM   #73758
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That's exactly what is happening to me. I'm like hey I already read this as I'm a few posts in. It is really bad when you run into one of your own posts.



Good point and probably the cause of that.



Probably is happening on other threads too, just noticed it on this one.
i am now preconditioned to immediately look at the top right side of the page for the page number; if it hasn't gone to the next page, and it shows you are still one page from the "last" page, it means you are actually on the last page. audiokarma.org also has the same glitch...

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Old 02-13-2013, 08:43 PM   #73759
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Well, the DR650 Thread has passed 13 million hits, with no end in site.
Holy sheeeeet!!! We rock!!!

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Old 02-13-2013, 09:10 PM   #73760
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Dang youze guys talk a lot!

Anyone tried the $30 Tank panniers from pro cycle? All the way at the bottom of the DR page. they look pretty slick for so cheap.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:27 PM   #73761
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Dang youze guys talk a lot!

Anyone tried the $30 Tank panniers from pro cycle? All the way at the bottom of the DR page. they look pretty slick for so cheap.
I use them as panniers behind the seat on my Berg. Didn't work on the DR with Safari for me.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:38 PM   #73762
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are they tough enough? hard to tell from the pics, could be kinda flimsy
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:51 PM   #73763
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are they tough enough? hard to tell from the pics, could be kinda flimsy
Quality is fine, especially for the price, and if you can use them.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:25 PM   #73764
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I do like Iridium plugs ... but, far as I know, the ones I bought were same heat range as stock plugs. I find Denso plugs better than NGK ... but are usually more expensive. (double last I checked)

Iridium plugs last longer, burn a bit cleaner. Starting, idle and MPG all just a bit better. I've used them for the last 40,000 miles or so ... all good.
Stock plugs on my bike were WORN OUT at 8K miles.
Iridium goes to 20K.
I've had the same experience w/ Iridium.

Denso (model IU31 for the DR) came up with the Iridium concept and has a patent on using the smallest size tip. I think they also have a patent on the unique Iridium/metal blend found in the tip. This smaller tip has an advantage of firing easier than the larger tips found in NGK and others.

You pay a little bit more for this however over NGK and they are rarer to find. Either brand is worth it IMO, but you do pay more than a copper plug because Iridium is one of rarest elements on earth. http://www.densoiridium.com/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-New-DENSO-...b72ae2&vxp=mtr

NGK CR10EIX http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-New-NGK-IR...f08bab&vxp=mtr
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:30 PM   #73765
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Dang youze guys talk a lot!

Anyone tried the $30 Tank panniers from pro cycle? All the way at the bottom of the DR page. they look pretty slick for so cheap.
it's still winter for most of us and the bikes are parked.

big question i'd have is do they get in your knees way when riding?
most tank paniers do unless you are able to pull then forward a bit.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:50 PM   #73766
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big question i'd have is do they get in your knees way when riding?
most tank paniers do unless you are able to pull then forward a bit.
That's why I have mine up back. Plus the velcro stays stuck to the sidecovers, but not for long to a plastic tank.

I ended up with a Wolfman tank bag and tank panniers with webbing adapted to get the panniers far enough forward so it doesn't impede riding. Not so hard to do with the Safari as it has large and forward 'wings'.



I don't have a pic of the bags on the Berg, but you can see where the velcro is on the sidecover that stops it flapping about. The middle bit goes under the seat and the seat bolt goes through the tank filler hole in the bags.

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Old 02-14-2013, 01:48 AM   #73767
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Good day all,
I noticed yesterday that my kickstand has rubbed a pretty good groove in my swingarm. I'm concerned about this, and not really sure how to get the kickstand to not rub, except to bend it outwards? I'm not sure grinding it would work, as the "foot" is pretty flush with the backside of the kickstand. Also, what potential does a deep groove in the swingarm for a failure of some sort? I'm not sure how thick the material is, and how does one go to repair something like this?
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:45 AM   #73768
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Good day all,
I noticed yesterday that my kickstand has rubbed a pretty good groove in my swingarm. I'm concerned about this, and not really sure how to get the kickstand to not rub, except to bend it outwards? I'm not sure grinding it would work, as the "foot" is pretty flush with the backside of the kickstand. Also, what potential does a deep groove in the swingarm for a failure of some sort? I'm not sure how thick the material is, and how does one go to repair something like this?
The kickstand starts to open up when too much weight (like sitting on the bike with the stand down) is placed on it. Take the stand off and close the top back together in a vise. I also took mine and used a grinding wheel to remove some material from the stand where it can contact the swingarm. I rounded it way down to make it less "knife-like".

There's some nasty pictures out there of the same kind of damage you are seeing. I noticed mine after it just scratched some. I keep an eye on it and try to never sit on the bike w/ the stand down now.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:47 AM   #73769
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I know this probably lost in the mix so I'll ask again. I recently bought the iridium spark plugs, one step hotter. is this going to be okay running 790 kit?
There is a misconception that the plug's heat range has to do with the temperature of the spark. It does not. Essentially, a hotter plug has a longer insulator which insulates it from the heat of the cylinder so as not to damage the plug. Therefore, it can withstand a higher heat application. If you use a higher temperature rated plug, there will be no adverse affects.

So, you are good to go.

Also, the temperature of the spark will have a negligible contribution to the temperature of the head compared to the pressurized fuel/air explosions.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:03 AM   #73770
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Heat rating and heat flow path of NGK Spark Plugs





The major structural difference affecting the heat rating is the length of the insulator nose. A hot type spark plug has a longer insulator nose. The insulator nose of a hotter spark plug has a longer distance between the firing tip of the insulator, and the point where insulator meets the metal shell. Therefore, the path for the dissipation of heat from the insulator nose to the cylinder head is longer and the firing end stays hotter. The insulator nose of a hotter spark plug also has a greater surface area that is exposed to more of the ignited gases and is easily heated to higher temperatures. A colder spark plug functions in an opposite manner.



http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...k_plugs/p2.asp
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