ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > The perfect line and other riding myths
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-17-2013, 10:56 PM   #316
Vanishing Point
A very sad panda
 
Vanishing Point's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Chico, CA
Oddometer: 3,083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vankaye View Post
Love my Hennessy Hammock! Did you know you are not allowed to hang a hammock in a state park anywhere in FL??

Got harassed by a ranger inside of a state park campground. State law prohibits hanging anything from a tree!?
Probably because they don't have bears. In bear country you are encouraged to hang your edible smelling gear from trees.
Vanishing Point is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 08:13 AM   #317
AlanCT
The Byronic Man
 
AlanCT's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Northeastern CT
Oddometer: 3,339
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanishing Point View Post
Probably because they don't have bears. In bear country you are encouraged to hang your edible smelling gear from trees.
Also, ropes can damage the tree bark and nitwits are always pounding in nails and leaving them there.

Sometimes, if you explain to a rational park ranger how the hammock hangs with straps that don't harm the trees rather than ropes, they will let you skate on that.
__________________
"You wouldn't be riding a motorcycle if you weren't an optimist."
- Matthew Crawford
2005 Ural Tourist, 2000 Kawasaki W650
IBA #23064
AlanCT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 11:41 AM   #318
dredman
Dirt Disciple
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Hoover Al
Oddometer: 109
I stealth camp a good bit, because I am cheap, it extends my journey(more cash for food and gas), I hate dealing with people at campgrounds and hotels ( I travel to get away from people, not to hang out with strangers) and I love the adventure of snagging "naughty camping" :)

Outside of Salt Lake in a small town park



And of course my favorite - ON the Blue Ridge Parkway




dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 02:11 PM   #319
danh600
Gnarly Adventurer
 
danh600's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Location: South Florida
Oddometer: 318
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanishing Point View Post
Probably because they don't have bears. In bear country you are encouraged to hang your edible smelling gear from trees.
There are bears in Florida.
danh600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 04:21 PM   #320
Plaka
Brevis illi vita est
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Oddometer: 4,586
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigphish View Post
I am leaving in June on a 5 or 6 week excursion through the western U.S. Solo. Should I have any concerns with undesirables finding or bothering me camping on Natl. forest lands??
Not really. Stay outside of towns a bit and avoid the interstates (interstate culture is uniform across the country, why bother going anywhere if you are slabbing it?).

get off the road as best possible. Never camp where there is a lot of trash lying around (too close to the road + trashy people+. Ditto don't camp where there is a trash can (municipal parks and similar excepted). Same reason, you are to close to the routes people travel and those things attract wildlife.

Be discreet above all. In at dusk (good time to get off the road...deer) and out at first light. Always pack up first and then if the place is cool make breakfast, otherwise go on down the road a bit and find a place to cook.

There are free natnl Forest campground. But they are usually dry. Fire pit, pick nick tables and toilet but no water. Carry a Dromedary bag or similar and fill with water in the last town you go through.

Rural landowners tend to be cool if you are respectful of their property and persons. Close gates. Don't build fires. No (visible) firearms. Don't block roads.

I usually tarp the bike (black tarp) to hide the reflective stuff and break up the outline. A lot of the west is very open country and you may find scant cover.

Keep your ID in a chest pocket and if confronted by LE, offer it before being asked. Reaching for wallet in back pocket is not so good; hands in front of you.

Don't sleep next to the bike, they fall over.

if I am carrying a tent I seldom set it up. Good for bad weather or bad bugs otherwise I enjoy the stars. A bivvy bag is better, Quick to deploy and pack, compact, fine for rain and bugs. personally I don't really "camp". it's more like I lie down in sthis place for some sleep, dide to another place and stop to cook a meal, ride somewhere else to bathe. very much a hunter gatherer lifestyle, primitive like that. (But I hunt at grocery stores and gas stations). often if the tent or tarps/bivvy are damp I will spread them to dry at breakfast or lunch.

if you usually take a dump first thing in the morning consider this when choosing a campsite. I find my life takes on a very different rhythm when on the road An laundromats, gas stations and grocery stores become the pit stop of choice.

Bears are mostly an issue in the back country. They like campgrounds for the munchies but also draw heat and get relocated. Still, do all the basic bear precautions (no food in "camp", wash anything that has food on it or spilled on it.)

Mosquitoes and especially ticks are a bigger problem. Use dope and do tick checks when camping in likely areas.

Get a guidebook to hotsprings of the west. Many are primitive and free. No soap. Carry bathing trunks for the ones where that is the norm. (also good for municipal swimming pools, another cheap clean-up).

At 5,000ft and above it can get very cold at night (frost on the sleeping bag) right through the summer. be prepared. (I use a polypro inner bag in my regular bag, gives me options).
Plaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 08:00 PM   #321
DAKEZ
Beastly Adventurer
 
DAKEZ's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: OR
Oddometer: 19,690
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plaka View Post
Stay outside of towns a bit and avoid the interstates (interstate culture is uniform across the country, why bother going anywhere if you are slabbing it?)....



Good list. But I don't agree with the slab comment. In a perfect World I would but...

Sadly, due to time constraints, I generally have to do a chunk or two of Super Slab miles on my way out or on the return trip. I try to mix it up a little by taking new roads... Roads I have either never been on or ones that it has been many years since I have been on.
Thankfully, not all slabs are created equal. Out here in the West there are hundreds of high speed sweeper Slab miles to be found.
__________________
“Watch out for everything bigger than you, they have the "right of weight"
Bib
DAKEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 05:35 AM   #322
Plaka
Brevis illi vita est
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Oddometer: 4,586
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAKEZ View Post


Good list. But I don't agree with the slab comment. In a perfect World I would but...

Sadly, due to time constraints, I generally have to do a chunk or two of Super Slab miles on my way out or on the return trip. I try to mix it up a little by taking new roads... Roads I have either never been on or ones that it has been many years since I have been on.
Thankfully, not all slabs are created equal. Out here in the West there are hundreds of high speed sweeper Slab miles to be found.
I didn't say the road's the same, I said the culture. The people and their style.
Plaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #323
Walub OP
Adventurer
 
Walub's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Oddometer: 87
I can't believe I started this tread before my first big trip in 2006 and it is still going. Money is a little tight right now so have been thinking of not licensing my bike this year because of the cost. But this has encouraged me to at least plan one trip.

P.S. Manitoba is the worst place in North America to insure a bike. it is almost $2000 bucks for my WeeStrom. and I am 37 with a clean driving record.
Walub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:26 PM   #324
Plaka
Brevis illi vita est
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Oddometer: 4,586
Full coverage? Mandatory medical (for rider)?
Plaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:35 PM   #325
Walub OP
Adventurer
 
Walub's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Oddometer: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plaka View Post
Full coverage? Mandatory medical (for rider)?
OK I didn't mean to side track this thread with insurance. I am pretty sure that will be the death of it To much good info here for that to happen.

But to answer your questions. The bike being insured for only $1000. If I do have an accident they will not be giving me the money to fix my bike. But at least then I am fully covered.
Walub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013, 03:02 PM   #326
Mgbgt89
Beastly Adventurer
 
Mgbgt89's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Oddometer: 1,535
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plaka View Post
if you usually take a dump first thing in the morning consider this when choosing a campsite. I find my life takes on a very different rhythm when on the road An laundromats, gas stations and grocery stores become the pit stop of choice.
This. One of the memories i'll never forget was being in the middle of the Talledega national forest, with a very bad rumbling down stairs. No toilet paper. Way too long of a ride down a way too bumpy of a road to make it to a shitter.

After weighing my options, Socks (only got one other pair for this ride), or a collection of gas station receipts. I chose the latter. Ran out and had to use the google map print out of directions to my buddys house in Atlanta.

A shitty situation for sure.
Mgbgt89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2013, 10:30 AM   #327
Ricky Rocket
Adventurer
 
Ricky Rocket's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Lebanon, Connecticut -- Good 'ol US of A!
Oddometer: 52
Yup, in CT everything is illegal. The politicians' idea of camping is setting up a $$$ RV on a cleared spot with water, electrical, and cable hookup. (no fires allowed, God forbid), and paying the ranger to drive by and "monitor" your compliance with regulations every hour or so. When I got out of the Army I went to a state campground...rain was on the way so I dug a shallow 3" ditch around the perimeter of my tent. Got fined for it, while wearing my dog tags and sporting a crew cut. Figures.

Quote:
Originally Posted by astrolump View Post
yeah...a lot of states have that rule. CT is one im aware of. that's why i usually try to stay in forests, and wma's. or on the side of the road
Ricky Rocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2013, 10:50 AM   #328
Ricky Rocket
Adventurer
 
Ricky Rocket's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Lebanon, Connecticut -- Good 'ol US of A!
Oddometer: 52
As the state parks here in CT won't let you tie a hammock to a tree, and the private campgrounds are nothing more than the redneck's weekend vacation villa, I'm starting to put together my "kit" for stealth camping. I have my MSR Whisperlite and cookware from my backpacking days, and my hammock with skeeter netting. Picking up a camo tarp/rainfly this weekend...maybe a green/camo tarp to cover the obviously RED bike, and a "Firebox" stove (they seem pretty neat and will add the ambiance of a wood fire w/out the danger of an open fire). I bought a cyclerack for my XR and hope to find some Wolfman side mounts for panniers. It's too bad my state forces you to break the law just to find a quiet spot to camp. I pride myself on "leave no trace" and have always been a consciencous sportsman. Oh well, just my way of pushing back on "the man".
Ricky Rocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2013, 10:53 AM   #329
jachard
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: NYC, CT
Oddometer: 603
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky Rocket View Post
Yup, in CT everything is illegal. The politicians' idea of camping is setting up a $$$ RV on a cleared spot with water, electrical, and cable hookup. (no fires allowed, God forbid), and paying the ranger to drive by and "monitor" your compliance with regulations every hour or so. When I got out of the Army I went to a state campground...rain was on the way so I dug a shallow 3" ditch around the perimeter of my tent. Got fined for it, while wearing my dog tags and sporting a crew cut. Figures.

+1 on this, CT campgrounds have a list of rules longer than any I have seen, they are horrible, so much so that I wrote a letter to the State...

No loud noises, no booze, no pets, no noisy kids, no... no... no... You get the idea. I just stealth camp in CT now, avoids the fees and Nazi camping...
__________________
2005 640e
2012 R1200GS Rallye
1993 Porsche 964 RS

http://octaneworks.wordpress.com/
jachard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2013, 11:33 AM   #330
Ricky Rocket
Adventurer
 
Ricky Rocket's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Lebanon, Connecticut -- Good 'ol US of A!
Oddometer: 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by jachard View Post
+1 on this, CT campgrounds have a list of rules longer than any I have seen, they are horrible, so much so that I wrote a letter to the State...

No loud noises, no booze, no pets, no noisy kids, no... no... no... You get the idea. I just stealth camp in CT now, avoids the fees and Nazi camping...

True my friend, camping is definitely NOT "RV'ing"....at least in my book. It used to be you could go to a state campground where they offered no amenites (save the latrines), and be left alone. Now it's like you're in a concentration camp. I want peace and solitude, not people bringing their freaking entire house with them, and setting up like it's their back deck. It's even funny how here in CT the highway median strips have no trespassing signs on them. Every bit of land is either regulated or off-limits to the very tax payers who pay to maintain them. Screw the State; I'm going to start getting my tax dollars worth back whether they like it or not.
__________________
This pleases me...
Ricky Rocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 09:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014