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Old 02-21-2013, 10:45 AM   #3346
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2013 Honda CRF250L - Europe/UK Specifications/Technical Details
European MSRP Price: See dealer for Pricing.
UK RRP: £TBA (Prices are recommended and inclusive of VAT @ 20% and delivery)

Engine
Engine Type liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC single cylinder
Engine Displacement 250cc
Compression Ratio 10.7
Max. Power Output 17.0/8500 kW/rpm (95/1/EC)
Max. Torque 22.0/7000 Nm/min (95/1/EC)
Fuel consumption 32.1km/L (90.4mpg)* (WMTC mode?Class3-1) Honda in-house measurement
Oil capacity 1.8L
Ignition Full-transistor battery ignition
Ignition timing 10° (idling)
Rev limit 10500 (rpm)
Starter Self-starter
Carburation Programmed fuel injection system (PGM-FI)
Idle speed 1450±100 (rpm)
Bore & Stroke 76.0×55.0 mm
Battery Capacity 12V 6Ah (10HR)
ACG Output 0.34 kW/5,000 rpm
Spark plug type SIMR8A9 (NGK)
Throttle bore 36mm

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Finally, I've asked on here, but never found out till now, thanks! Haven't had a bike w/o a tach recently. Never bounced it off the limiter yet, but then again, due to weather, not riding so much here. More snow on the way, 3rd weekend for snow, dang.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:45 AM   #3347
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The Scorpion is NOT better on pavement than D606. Plus it is noisier. If they are available in appropriate sizes, Continental TKC 80's are slightly more offroad than what is stock, but for such an aggresive tread they are quiet and grippy on pavement. Shinko 705 is a nice tire, reasonably priced, but a little less offroad than stock. Pirelli MT21 used to be popular here and were decent offroad...are they an option?
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Brilliant thanks for the suggestions. I searched far and wide for something that might be suitable and never came up with the Conti TKC80 myself which are available in the UK.



Can get the front okay 300 -21 M/C 51S TT


Not the 120/80-18 for the rear. Which would be the best size option:


410 -18 M/C 66P TT reinf.
400 -18 M/C 64R TT
110/80 -18 M/C 58Q TT
120/90 -18 M/C 65R TT
140/80 -18 M/C 70R T


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Old 02-21-2013, 05:42 PM   #3348
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Question for my EJK friends.

Just installed mine, everything seems fine but had a question with the instructions. It says turn on the bike, and if the EJK flashes red/green it means a connection issue, mine flashes this code if I turn the key/to accessory. But once I actually start the bike it flashes green like its supposed to, I'm assuming this is normal but was just checking if everyone else's does that as well.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:45 PM   #3349
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Brilliant thanks for the suggestions. I searched far and wide for something that might be suitable and never came up with the Conti TKC80 myself which are available in the UK.



Can get the front okay 300 -21 M/C 51S TT


Not the 120/80-18 for the rear. Which would be the best size option:


410 -18 M/C 66P TT reinf.
400 -18 M/C 64R TT
110/80 -18 M/C 58Q TT
120/90 -18 M/C 65R TT
140/80 -18 M/C 70R T


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I'd suggest going to Continental or other sources to get dimensions of the tires of interest and measure the CRF tire for comparison. Since the CRF tire is an 80 profile, it's going to be fairly short...sadly the 120/90 may be tall by about an inch and wider. That inch can throw off your gearing...even if you are using a 13T C/S sprocket instead of the stock 14T. My opinion is too big of a rear tire just bogs little engines like the CRF
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:49 PM   #3350
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here's a bit of Little Red Piggy stock artwork for anyone that's interested:


And here's a 3" x 4" PDF suitable for printing:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16386239/lrp.pdf

If I'm infringing on something someone has already done let me know, I'll happily take it down. If you want a specific size or format I can probably provide that as well.

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:49 PM   #3351
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My CRF Service manual finally arrived...nearly 10 days for it to go the 20 miles from Helm to me. Whatever..got it...happy happy!

As soon as saw your post stating they were back in stock, I ordered mine. After reading that yours came today, I went out to see if mine did but no, only my folding shift lever arrived. Oh well, that's a good days delivery.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:56 PM   #3352
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Can't get Kenda 270 in the UK? How about MEFO? When they came from the old DDR they were cheap....now after reunification they are $$$$....but they wear like iron! There is also Heidenau
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:41 PM   #3353
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CRF Service Manual Revision Pages

The Manual I just received has 5 revised pages added into the pack. Pages 1-11, 3-20, 7-18, 10-5, 10-19. Some pages have a "NEW" in big bold print....others nothing. Some are minor torque value editing...another is a whole different set of pictures Basic manual is Jun 2012 printing, these revisions are Nov 2012
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:35 PM   #3354
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can someone explain the tire situation with the crf250l. what size tires will work front and back since every different tire doesnt come in the same sizes.

and do the stock tires have tubes? if so what size tubes do you buy? i am thinking about getting some new tires but i never changed a motorcycle tire before and dont really know anything about them.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:54 PM   #3355
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On Rocket123's #3370 page 225 input he shows a pic of the tools that come with the bike in the UK. Anyone seen a part # for that wierd spark plug wrench? Nothing in the manual, Americans don't get the tool kit, and there is no part # is the service manual, and no part or $$ on the parts fiche....Rocket's pic is the first one I've seen of that plug wrench. I've got some leftover plug sockets from my XR Hondas...but nothing like that....and auto plug tools are almost always too fat to go down the hole. And is the plug a 14mm hex?

EDIT: Who has a clue what the tool just to the left of the 8/10 open end wrench does? In my leftover junk tools I have everything else..except of course the spark plug socket.

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Old 02-21-2013, 09:14 PM   #3356
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tool

the tool left of the 8/10 appears to be a tool I have had in bikes in the past. It is a 10 MM socket that you put a screw driver through to turn.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:23 PM   #3357
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started making it mine

In the last couple of days I have started making my CRFL mine.

First thing was to remove the ugly rear fender extention and license light, then add a license plate bracket. .

then built a tail rack.

Added richoet bash guard.

Cycra pro bend hand guards.

Rox risers.

Tach.

13 tooth sprocket and spedo correction

removed clutch and side stand switches

12 volt outlet to power heated clothes and charge battery.

removed the seat strap.

slowly becoming mine.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:32 AM   #3358
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side stand switch

Does anyone have any photos or instruction on side stand switch removal? I'm afraid to get started and then get stuck with a bike that won't start.... Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:02 AM   #3359
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Some tool Info:
Listed in tools for a '13 CBR250R is "Wrench, Plug (16.5)" 89216-MAT-000 $9.98 Has anyone bought this and used it on their CRF?
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:08 AM   #3360
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I'd suggest going to Continental or other sources to get dimensions of the tires of interest and measure the CRF tire for comparison. Since the CRF tire is an 80 profile, it's going to be fairly short...sadly the 120/90 may be tall by about an inch and wider. That inch can throw off your gearing...even if you are using a 13T C/S sprocket instead of the stock 14T. My opinion is too big of a rear tire just bogs little engines like the CRF
Thanks for the warning. That's bad news. After speaking yesterday, i looked at one catalog (the only SA supplier i could think of that had a list online - Michelin, Pirelli...two others i can't remember) and... 120 seems quite non-standard. They were all 130, 140, and the profiles were all 90. Then if you factor in the interest in more offroad type or more onroad type, seems like it's going to be a problem - involving a compromise.
Yes, bigger tire with an engine like this...nah, i'd rather go for a 110, if that's what's available. It might look a bit skinny - the OEM one does already - but it would probably work better. And that means the speedo, too...i can see myself buying that expensive "speedo healer" thing eventually.

What's bothering me, though, is that the front tire seems really wrong on the road - around 100km/h / 65mph, it feels really skittery. Quite unusual for me. Limited experience, but my KDX full knobbies are so stable on the road, they grip amazingly, and when they are getting near the limit, i can feel it. So i must see what i can get that is more suitable for the road.
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