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Old 02-22-2013, 09:34 AM   #526
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I did this one about 7 years ago, and photoshopped it until I thought it looked cool. My wife and I are happy with the picture, and truly, that is all that matters. (I actually cropped it a "little" bit for the 4x6 in is currently framed in, but this is the original.)

That said, critique away! I have a much nicer camera now, but feel I do not know much more than the basics (I haven't hit the HDR curve posted in another thread )

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Old 02-22-2013, 10:06 AM   #527
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I did this one about 7 years ago, and photoshopped it until I thought it looked cool. My wife and I are happy with the picture, and truly, that is all that matters. (I actually cropped it a "little" bit for the 4x6 in is currently framed in, but this is the original.)

That said, critique away! I have a much nicer camera now, but feel I do not know much more than the basics (I haven't hit the HDR curve posted in another thread )

That old camera does suffer a good bit in the shadows with noise but the big thing I'd say is this is a good starting point for images using the human form in more of an abstract way. I'll focus mostly on the composition since this was awhile back.

Cropping to 4x6 would help with one issue, you have 1 arm partially cropped, and the other has negative space. You really want to get these equal especially for an image like this where the body is more about the shapes than anything else (at least how I'm viewing it).

The other big thing is just work on angles and positioning, Maybe have the hands in a way that all you see coming out of them are the baby's feet. The little bit of the leg showing on the left side is one thing you should try to avoid. I know babies don't always do what you want but just be patient and have the finger on the shutter...high burst speed selected if possible just in case.

If playing around with the human form like this is a big interest of yours let me know, I'll send you some links about a photographer you should check out.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:47 AM   #528
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I posted this one on another thread - taken with my D50 early on a cold January morning in San Diego. Appreciate the input in advance.

D50

Is yours still going? That little camera is a tank and survived years of heavy use from me and even a year of shooting events by my friend after that.

There are a few ways to go with this photo, one would be to have the surfer be dead center and she would become almost like an abstract form there due to the positioning in the frame and body.

One thing to watch out for is the horizon line is slightly off up top, but here the edges don't have anything vital to the image so a slight bit of rotation would be fine to correct that.

The exposure is kinda dark in much of it....but it also has areas in or near maximum white so if you went further they would be blown out so that's just a challenging shot for a sensor.

Also I feel a crop could bring this more together, I'm going to list a few of the areas that could possibly go which would help make the image more concise. If you want I can try a few myself and post them as well.

The bottom part of the image before the rocks is mostly negative space so that isn't too key.

On the top part you do have the rocks but just cutting off part of the image on my screen having the sea be the backdrop seems to work pretty well.

Now if you cut down on this you'll have to take some from the sides, and for that the big part to keep is one of the areas where the long wave hasn't broken yet.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:52 AM   #529
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Thanks for the critique. About the shadows... Everything black in the picture was originally more human skin. This was our first baby, and my wife had found some cool mother-baby photos online that she wanted to try to duplicate. Personally, out of all the pictures we took, this one post-photoshop was my favorite. I had a Konica-Minolta point and shoot back then, so there were all sorts of limitations. Anyway, it was obviously a color picture, but I chopped out the background flesh and converted the picture to B&W. When playing with contrast, saturation, and brightness the "graininess and noise" appeared. Definitely from a lack of sensor abilities and glass as well for that matter.

I had never thought about the dead space on the right side of the image. I looked at the 4x6 file and it helps somewhat, but still some black on that side. Good catch.

Sure thing on the links I don't know how much of this type of thing I will do in the future, but one never knows.

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That old camera does suffer a good bit in the shadows with noise but the big thing I'd say is this is a good starting point for images using the human form in more of an abstract way. I'll focus mostly on the composition since this was awhile back.

Cropping to 4x6 would help with one issue, you have 1 arm partially cropped, and the other has negative space. You really want to get these equal especially for an image like this where the body is more about the shapes than anything else (at least how I'm viewing it).

The other big thing is just work on angles and positioning, Maybe have the hands in a way that all you see coming out of them are the baby's feet. The little bit of the leg showing on the left side is one thing you should try to avoid. I know babies don't always do what you want but just be patient and have the finger on the shutter...high burst speed selected if possible just in case.

If playing around with the human form like this is a big interest of yours let me know, I'll send you some links about a photographer you should check out.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:58 AM   #530
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[QUOTE=NikonsAndVStroms;20785462]D50

Is yours still going? That little camera is a tank and survived years of heavy use from me and even a year of shooting events by my friend after that.

Still going strong - bought it in 2005, and absolutely no issues with it.


Also I feel a crop could bring this more together, I'm going to list a few of the areas that could possibly go which would help make the image more concise. If you want I can try a few myself and post them as well.

Look forward to seeing your results.

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Old 02-22-2013, 11:36 AM   #531
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D50

Is yours still going? That little camera is a tank and survived years of heavy use from me and even a year of shooting events by my friend after that.

Still going strong - bought it in 2005, and absolutely no issues with it.


Also I feel a crop could bring this more together, I'm going to list a few of the areas that could possibly go which would help make the image more concise. If you want I can try a few myself and post them as well.

Look forward to seeing your results.

Thank you

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Old 02-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #532
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Thank you for the input - I like what you did.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:26 PM   #533
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Cowboys Stadium 2/16/13. Hand held and it was cold out, lucky to hold it still.

Shooting on P mode with my new friend auto ISO. D 700 with the 17-35 F2.8

This is really tripod territory with a long shutter but that wasn't an option.

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Old 02-23-2013, 06:38 AM   #534
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Cowboys Stadium 2/16/13. Hand held and it was cold out, lucky to hold it still.

Shooting on P mode with my new friend auto ISO. D 700 with the 17-35 F2.8

This is really tripod territory with a long shutter but that wasn't an option.

, the D700 just spoils you.

Angling up with an UWA can be a bit risky, here it has the front of the facade looking normal at first and then getting more and more distorted which becomes the focus and a distraction to the cool shapes going on.

This is the type of photo where I'd use it more as the raw material for an artistic image than trying to capture reality. You have the really cool curving steel support and then the very geometric part of the stadium in the left hand corner. I'd isolate these by burning the rest of it down to black. Then rotating it to a portrait orientation, either direction looks like it could work. What you're left with then is a nice abstract.

*Just a quick PS, I know you like shooting bikes, have you seen the news about the D7100? If it's everything their claiming it'll be a sweet camera for that, and will give you extra reach along with AF points covering most of the frame. It'll also be good for landscapes or detail work since there wont be an AA filter. That's the big news to me, if there are no major launch issues I might get it over the D800 for my studio work.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:53 AM   #535
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*Just a quick PS, I know you like shooting bikes, have you seen the news about the D7100? If it's everything their claiming it'll be a sweet camera for that, and will give you extra reach along with AF points covering most of the frame. It'll also be good for landscapes or detail work since there wont be an AA filter. That's the big news to me, if there are no major launch issues I might get it over the D800 for my studio work.
I have not. I love the D700 but I'm in a dilemma. The 700 is covered under the Best Buy Black Tie extended warranty, the SB900 is not though I did buy it from them. The SB was flashing erratically, sometimes on it's own, sometimes it wouldn't fire. Assuming it was the speedlight I sent it in to Nikon, they replaced a bunch of stuff and charged me about $125 and deemed it ready to rock. Got it back and it's still doing it. I send in the D700 to Best Buy, they replaced the flash board, clean and shine, update software blah blah blah, and send it back.

IT's still doing it. I'm going to send both items into Best Buy and tell them when I get it back, if they still do it I want the camera replaced. They did that with the D40 and the D300 enabling me to buy up each time. A little whining might get me my full purchase price back and I get approx $2800 store credit for Best Buy then I'd get a D4.

I just googled the 7100 it's a $1200 DX camera I want to move up not down. Not meaning to sound like a camera snob but the better camera's cost more for a reason, reason is they are a better product. The D700 seems kind of slow on FPS @ 4 while the D4 @10 seems like you are armed for big game. I really don't want a D800 I want a D4 but would need Best Buy to replace the 700 which they just might if the camera/flash comes back again. Heck they might do it now they replaced my 300 when it came back from service and one thing that it went in for wasn't addressed and I whined a little and they immediately said, we'll replace the camera.
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Okay I'll play. I'm still a novice, I suppose, but I love shooting sunsets..



Critique away. I don't photoshop my photos unless I have to, so most of my stuff is directly off the camera.
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I have not. I love the D700 but I'm in a dilemma. The 700 is covered under the Best Buy Black Tie extended warranty, the SB900 is not though I did buy it from them. The SB was flashing erratically, sometimes on it's own, sometimes it wouldn't fire. Assuming it was the speedlight I sent it in to Nikon, they replaced a bunch of stuff and charged me about $125 and deemed it ready to rock. Got it back and it's still doing it. I send in the D700 to Best Buy, they replaced the flash board, clean and shine, update software blah blah blah, and send it back.

IT's still doing it. I'm going to send both items into Best Buy and tell them when I get it back, if they still do it I want the camera replaced. They did that with the D40 and the D300 enabling me to buy up each time. A little whining might get me my full purchase price back and I get approx $2800 store credit for Best Buy then I'd get a D4.

I just googled the 7100 it's a $1200 DX camera I want to move up not down. Not meaning to sound like a camera snob but the better camera's cost more for a reason, reason is they are a better product. The D700 seems kind of slow on FPS @ 4 while the D4 @10 seems like you are armed for big game. I really don't want a D800 I want a D4 but would need Best Buy to replace the 700 which they just might if the camera/flash comes back again. Heck they might do it now they replaced my 300 when it came back from service and one thing that it went in for wasn't addressed and I whined a little and they immediately said, we'll replace the camera.
Oh nice, I thought you were looking at the D800.....the D4 is another story, and good luck with best buy.
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Critique away. I don't photoshop my photos unless I have to, so most of my stuff is directly off the camera.
Right now the top is mostly negative space being that solid color and since the real interesting parts are the color gradation and the mountains I'd zoom in on them. In your browser look at the the photo as it is now, then scroll down so you cut off everything until you get to the solid yellow. Doing that for me made it look a lot stronger.

With the mountains there is also a good bit of negative space on either side, here you can leave a little bit to still show the complete chain of them....or crop closer inside the mountains. Either way works and I think really makes the image pop a lot more.

Also with photoshop I'd bring any image in even if for a few seconds and play with curves. Being able to make a dark area black, or bring out the mid tones or highlights can really help.
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Right now the top is mostly negative space being that solid color and since the real interesting parts are the color gradation and the mountains I'd zoom in on them. In your browser look at the the photo as it is now, then scroll down so you cut off everything until you get to the solid yellow. Doing that for me made it look a lot stronger.

With the mountains there is also a good bit of negative space on either side, here you can leave a little bit to still show the complete chain of them....or crop closer inside the mountains. Either way works and I think really makes the image pop a lot more.

Also with photoshop I'd bring any image in even if for a few seconds and play with curves. Being able to make a dark area black, or bring out the mid tones or highlights can really help.
It's not that I'm opposed to using PS, it's just that I like the way the picture turns out from the camera. I've used PS before to make some fancy pictures, or adjust colors or what have ye..

I appreciate the comments though. I always like seeing what others think of my work
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Does it give you an image file or make you a new RAW? And which one does it take as the input? I'm wondering because the tough part of this image is the light on the lighthouse, when I opened up curves I saw this:



That little blip in the end is the light but everything else is pretty far back in the mid tones. If you could burn it down/mask and bring down exposure in something like lightroom slightly that would help give some room to bring everything else up.

Before I post it looking at my crop I think I went a tiny bit too far but it'll give you an idea:



The thing I was struggling with was between leaving that extra bit in and the effect it had to the position of the lighthouse. Right now it's off center enough to be obviously that way. But as you get closer to the center the fact that it's close but not perfect will be something that makes it a little uneasy in some cases.

I'll admit a personal bias against absolutely centered focal points, I really only like to go to them when that's the main part of the photo and in a way I want to smack the viewer in the head and yell LOOK AT THIS!
I import my pictures into Aperture, then export them to the image stacking program. When Aperture exports the image, it converts it from RAW to JPEG.

I took the picture for the star trails, I just needed a good foreground subject. My wife and I were on a pier in Sturgeon Bay, WI and it was about 10 out. My wife being me wife under dressed and was complaining from the second we got out of the car (the DHS no trespassing signs didn't help either, we were on Coast Guard property).

Long story short, I could and should have composed the picture better.

Thanks for all the great and obviously professional advice, I will take it to heart!
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